Coroner calls for more guidance on doulas after baby's death in Hampshire

Coroner Sounds Alarm on Doulas as Baby Death Raises Concerns Over Home Birth Guidance

A coroner has warned that more babies may die if greater clarity is not provided over the role of home birth assistants, known as doulas. The warning comes after a baby girl died from a brain injury just 15 days into life due to delays in hospital treatment during her mother's difficult home labour.

The case highlights concerns about the role of doulas in delaying midwives' access to the hospital, particularly when signs of foetal distress are present. In one instance, a midwife offered transfer to hospital twice before the request was turned down, with the second time being due to "deteriorating" labour but not communicated effectively to the family.

The coroner, Henry Charles, has called for greater guidance on doulas' roles and boundaries. He noted that the presence of a doula can create a buffer between midwives and parents, leading to misunderstandings about what is and isn't acceptable in terms of birth planning.

Doulas are non-medical professionals who provide emotional and practical support during pregnancy and birth, often alongside NHS midwives. However, their role is not clearly defined, and there is currently no regulation governing their activities.

The coroner's warning has been echoed by a separate report by Maternity and Newborn Safety Investigations (MNSI), which found that doulas were involved in 12 of the 29 maternity investigations it had completed, with evidence suggesting they often worked outside of their defined boundaries.

Doula UK has responded to the criticism, stating that they take the implications of the coroner's report extremely seriously and are reviewing and strengthening their policies and guidance on doula practices. However, critics argue that more needs to be done to ensure doulas understand their roles and responsibilities in order to prevent similar tragedies in the future.

The coroner's warning has sparked concerns about the growing use of doulas during childbirth, with many expectant mothers now choosing to work with these non-medical professionals. However, without clearer guidance on doulas' roles, there is a risk that more babies may suffer as a result of delays in hospital treatment due to misunderstandings about what is and isn't acceptable in terms of birth planning.

The government has been urged to take action to avoid similar tragedies involving doulas by providing greater clarity and guidance over their roles.
 
man this is wild ๐Ÿคฏ the coroner's warning is a total wake-up call for these doula folks ๐Ÿšจ they need some serious guidelines on what's expected of them, like, literally lives are at stake here ๐Ÿ’€ i feel bad for that little baby girl and her family, they must be going through so much pain and grief ๐Ÿ˜” it's crazy to me how some doulas just aren't communicating effectively with midwives or families, it's just basic human care ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ the government needs to step in here and set some clear boundaries for these doula professionals ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™€๏ธ we need more education and regulation on this whole thing so that no one has to go through what that family did ๐Ÿ˜”
 
the coroner's warning about doulas is super valid ๐Ÿค, i mean, it's one thing to have a supportive friend or family member help you through the birth process, but when you're dealing with medical emergencies, clear communication is key ๐Ÿ’ก. it's crazy that there's no regulation governing doulas' activities - how can we trust them to make decisions that might affect our baby's life if they're not even following established protocols? ๐Ÿค” i'd love to see more clarity on their roles and boundaries so that expectant moms know what to expect and can make informed decisions about their care.
 
๐Ÿค” i agree that we need more clarity on the role of doulas in home births, especially when it comes to fetal distress. it's concerning that a midwife had to offer transfer to hospital twice only to be turned down both times. ๐Ÿš‘ like, what's the worst-case scenario here? a baby's life is at risk and we're not sure if we can trust doulas to make the right decisions in those moments.

i'm not saying doulas are bad people or anything, but we need better guidelines so that everyone knows their boundaries. it's not rocket science, right? ๐Ÿค“ and i also think the government should step in here and provide some guidance on this whole doula thing. we can't just leave it to individual organizations to sort out on their own.

i'm a bit skeptical of doula uk's response though - they say they're reviewing their policies, but what that actually means in practice is anyone's guess ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. i want to see some concrete changes before I get too comfortable with the idea of doulas being a part of my birth plan.
 
๐Ÿ’” I'm totally on the same page as this coroner, Henry Charles ๐Ÿค. The lack of clear guidelines for doulas is a huge red flag โš ๏ธ. It's crazy that these non-medical professionals can create a buffer between midwives and parents, leading to misunderstandings about birth planning ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. I mean, what if those misunderstandings delay hospital treatment and put a baby's life at risk? ๐Ÿ˜จ It's not just the coroner warning, it's Maternity and Newborn Safety Investigations (MNSI) report too... 12 of the 29 maternity investigations involved doulas, that's a huge statistic! ๐Ÿ“Š We need to get our act together and provide clearer guidance for doulas ASAP! ๐Ÿ’ช
 
๐Ÿค• gotta say, this case is really worrying... all those delays because of not knowing how to communicate effectively between midwives & parents... just imagine if it was your own baby ๐Ÿคฐโ€โ™€๏ธ... need more guidelines on doulas' role so they can help, not hinder, hospital care ๐Ÿš‘๐Ÿ’ก
 
๐Ÿค• just heard this news about the coroner's warning on doulas... it's so scary, my heart is racing thinking about all those babies who might die if there's not more clarity on what doulas can and can't do ๐Ÿคฏ. i remember when i was pregnant with my first kid, i had a doula come in and she was super nice and supportive, but then i realized that we were kinda stuck at home waiting for the baby to come because of her "help". it was so frustrating! ๐Ÿ˜ฉ anyway, i think doulas are lovely and all, but they need to be educated on what's really going on during a birth, not just what's happening in their own little world ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. we can't have them making decisions that put babies at risk because of some misunderstanding or miscommunication... it's just too much ๐Ÿ˜ญ.
 
๐Ÿšจ my gut's telling me we need stricter guidelines for these doula people... like, it's not that hard to define what they do but apparently it is ๐Ÿ˜• i mean, a 15-day-old baby dying from a brain injury due to delayed hospital treatment because of her parents' birthing plan? ๐Ÿคฏ no thanks, not worth the risk ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™€๏ธ

it's like, we need more training and accountability for these doulas. it can't be that hard to know when someone needs medical help ASAP โฐ. and what's with this "deteriorating" labour thing? didn't the parents get any clear explanation about what was going on or why they needed to go to hospital? ๐Ÿค”

anyway, i'm all for doula support and emotional care during pregnancy but we need to make sure these doulas are following proper protocols and not putting lives at risk ๐Ÿ’ฏ. the coroner's warning should be taken seriously and the government needs to step in and provide some clear guidelines ASAP โฑ๏ธ
 
I'm getting a bit worried about these home births with doulas involved ๐Ÿค”. I mean, don't get me wrong, they're supposed to be supporting the mum and baby, but what if they're not doing it right? ๐Ÿ™ˆ The coroner's warning is a good one - we need clearer guidelines on what's acceptable and what's not. It's like, just because you've got a doula doesn't mean you can ignore the signs of foetal distress... that's just common sense, innit? ๐Ÿ˜ฌ And yeah, I get why doulas want to be involved, but if they're not qualified to do so, then maybe they shouldn't be. It's all about finding that balance between supporting mum and baby, while also ensuring their safety ๐Ÿคž.
 
"When the going gets tough, the tough get going" ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’•

I feel so bad for that little baby girl and her family. It's heartbreaking to think about what could have been done differently to prevent such a tragic outcome. I think it's time we need to rethink the role of doulas and make sure they understand their boundaries. We can't just let these non-medical professionals work outside of their defined roles, that's just not acceptable ๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿ’ฏ
 
๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ˜ฌ this is so sad, a 15 day old baby died from brain injury due to delays in hospital treatment ๐Ÿค•... it's just not right that doulas aren't clear on their boundaries and it could lead to more babies suffering ๐Ÿ’”๐Ÿ‘ถ... doula uk needs to step up and provide better guidance for these non-medical professionals ๐Ÿ“š๐Ÿ’ก... the government should definitely take action to avoid similar tragedies in the future ๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
I'm not sure if this is the right way to do things, but I think we need to calm down and have a chat about this whole doula thing ๐Ÿค—. I get that there's been a baby death and it's super sad, but we can't just blame the doulas for everything. They're like... emotional support people, right? But maybe they need some guidance on how to help mums feel more at ease during birth? It's not like they're trying to cause any harm, you know?

I mean, I've heard of doulas doing their job, but also knowing when to step back and let the NHS midwives do their thing. It's all about communication, I think ๐Ÿค. We need to figure out how to make sure that everything runs smoothly, not just for the mums, but for the babies too.

Let's not jump to conclusions or start criticising each other ๐Ÿ’•. We need to have a calm and rational conversation about how we can make things better. Maybe we should get some experts in and have a chat about what doulas can do and how they can be helped to do it right? ๐Ÿค“
 
๐Ÿšจ I'm so worried about this ๐Ÿค•. Home births can be super safe if everything goes according to plan, but what happens when things don't go as planned? Like in the case of that little girl who died due to delays in hospital treatment... it's just heartbreaking ๐Ÿ’”. The coroner is right to sound the alarm and call for clearer guidance on doulas' roles - we need to make sure these non-medical professionals understand what they can and can't do, especially when signs of foetal distress are present ๐Ÿค’. It's not just about supporting mums during birth, it's about ensuring their babies get the medical help they need ASAP ๐Ÿ’จ.
 
I mean come on, don't get me wrong, the whole home birth thing can be great for moms who are all about natural vibes, but what's the point of having a midwife if she's not gonna step in when things go south? I'm all for doulas providing emotional support and stuff, but like, at some point, you gotta put mom's health first. It's wild that these doulas can just kinda show up uninvited to the hospital if they think it's time for them to start intervening...idk, maybe I'm just old school on this one lol ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿ˜’
 
Wow ๐Ÿคฏ The coroner's warning about doulas is super important ๐Ÿ’•. Doulas can be super helpful, but without clear guidelines, they can also cause problems ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. I mean, who wouldn't want to prioritize a healthy birth experience, right? ๐Ÿคฐ But at the same time, we need to make sure that doulas know their limits and don't put mums and bubs at risk ๐Ÿšจ. It's like, let's get some clearer rules on this stuff so everyone can be safe and happy ๐Ÿ’–!
 
๐Ÿšจ I'm totally shocked that more babies could die if there's not clearer guidance on doulas! ๐Ÿคฏ It's just not right that a non-medical professional can delay hospital treatment and put a baby's life at risk. We need to make sure these doulas know their roles and responsibilities so they're not putting anyone in harm's way. ๐Ÿ’” The coroner is right, we do need more clarity on what's acceptable during birth planning. It's not just about the parents wanting control over their experience, it's about keeping the baby safe too! ๐Ÿคฐโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
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