Can Minnesota prosecute the federal immigration officer who just killed a woman?

Federal Officers Can Be Prosecuted for Violating State Law: What Does the Supreme Court Say?

The shooting of a woman in Minneapolis by an immigration officer has left many wondering if federal immunity will shield the officer from prosecution. The Trump administration's deployment of thousands of immigration agents to the city has added fuel to the fire, but is it enough to prevent a federal investigation into the killing?

In 1890, the Supreme Court ruled in In re Neagle that Deputy Marshal David Neagle was protected by federal law from being charged with murder for killing a man who attacked US Supreme Court Justice Stephen Field. The ruling held that Neagle's actions were necessary and proper as part of his official duties.

Fast forward to June 2025, when the Supreme Court issued Martin v. United States, which narrowed the scope of Neagle. The court ruled that federal officers are only protected if their actions can be justified as "necessary and proper" in the discharge of their federal responsibilities. This ruling suggests that Minnesota may have a chance to prosecute the officer responsible for the Minneapolis killing.

However, the law governing this issue is unclear, and any prosecution would be highly politicized. The Supreme Court's decision in Martin has created a gray area, leaving it uncertain whether a jury would convict an officer who broke state law.

One key factor that may impact the outcome of the case is a federal statute that removes charges against "any officer (or any person acting under that officer) of the United States or any agency thereof" from state court and sends them to federal judges. This statute could ensure that the question of whether Neagle applies to this case would be decided by conservative Republicans on the US Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit.

Ultimately, the prosecution's success will depend on how the judges hear the case. With six Republican justices on the Supreme Court, it is unclear if they would approach the case as impartial jurists or partisans.
 
I'm thinking about this whole thing and I'm kinda worried that our justice system has become a bit too complicated ๐Ÿค”. It's like we're trying to solve a puzzle with too many pieces, but nobody knows where they all fit together. The fact that federal officers can be prosecuted for violating state law is a good thing, but what does it really say about us as a society? Are we so concerned with protecting our own that we're willing to let the law slip through the cracks?

And then there's this whole idea of "necessary and proper" actions. What even is that supposed to mean? Is it just a fancy way of saying "we did what we thought was right, so you can't touch us"? It feels like we're still trying to figure out who gets to decide what's right or wrong in our society ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ.

I guess the real question is, are we willing to put our values as a people above some arbitrary law? I'm not sure anyone has the answer to that one ๐Ÿ˜ฌ.
 
๐Ÿค” so basically the supreme court just kinda... softened the stance on federal immunity, but still there's all these grey areas that make me wonder if justice will actually get served in this case. I mean, if a state law gets trumped by a fed one, does that really supersede human life? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ it's like they're trying to keep the system intact at any cost, but what's the real intention here? are we talking about accountability or just avoiding liability? ๐Ÿค‘
 
Ugh, can't believe we're still dealing with this federal immunity nonsense ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿšซ. It's like, come on! If someone breaks state law, they should be held accountable, regardless of whether they're a fed or not. This whole 'necessary and proper' thing is just a fancy way of saying 'we don't want to deal with it'. And now that the Supreme Court has narrowed the scope, we might actually see some justice served? ๐Ÿคž But let's be real, this case is gonna be super politicized and I'm not holding my breath. We need more clarity on this issue and less dodging by federal officers ๐Ÿ‘Š.
 
๐Ÿค” this whole thing is super confusing... like what's supposed to happen here? federal officer shoots woman in minnesota, and now we gotta figure out if they're protected by some old law from 1890? ๐Ÿ™„ the supreme court just narrowed down the scope of that rule, but it still leaves a big grey area... will the officer get away with it? or can minnesota take them to court? ๐Ÿš” it's all super politicized and I don't know who to trust anymore... ๐Ÿ˜’
 
๐Ÿค” So I'm thinking about this whole thing and how it relates to accountability for federal officers who break state law... Like what's going on in Minneapolis with that immigration officer shooting a woman? It's not like we're seeing some kind of systemic cover-up, right? But the question is will they be able to bring him to justice if he broke state law?

I mean the Supreme Court has basically said that federal officers aren't completely off the hook if their actions can be justified as part of their job duties. But what does that even mean? And how do we know that's going to hold up in a courtroom? The fact that there's this big ol' gray area between necessary and proper is kind of concerning.

And then you've got this federal statute that basically says if someone breaks state law, they can get taken down by the feds... but what if it doesn't apply in this case? It feels like we're stuck in some kinda bureaucratic limbo, waiting for the judges to figure out whether or not Neagle applies here.

It's gonna be a real nail-biter to see how this all plays out... and I'm not just talking about the Minneapolis shooting itself... I mean the whole system is at stake. Will they take down the officer if he broke state law? Or will it all get swept under the rug because of politics? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
I don't know about this new ruling by the Supreme Court... It seems like a big deal, but to be honest, I kinda remember when the Reagan administration did something similar back in the day and it was all over the news ๐Ÿ“ฐ. But I guess times have changed and so has the law. What's crazy is how it still comes down to "necessary and proper" - sounds like some old-school bureaucratic mumbo-jumbo to me... Like, what if the officer just didn't do their job right? Shouldn't they be held accountable for breaking state law? ๐Ÿค”
 
The system is still broken ๐Ÿค”. All these years later and we're still debating what's "necessary and proper" for our law enforcement. Can't we just make sure officers are held accountable for breaking state laws, even if it means federal officials are involved? It feels like we're just passing the buck from one level to another ๐Ÿ˜’. The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the key to change lies in having more independent judges on the bench ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿ’ช
 
๐Ÿค” I mean, what's new right? Federal officers think they're above the law because of some old Supreme Court ruling... yeah sure ๐Ÿ™„. It's about time someone held them accountable for breaking state laws while putting lives at risk though ๐Ÿ‘Š. And can we talk about how politicized this whole thing is? ๐Ÿ˜’ I'm not saying the prosecution won't happen, but with those conservative judges on the US Court of Appeals, it's gonna be a wild ride ๐ŸŽ .
 
It's a "gray area" situation, but that's what makes life interesting ๐Ÿค”. The law can be murky, and it seems like the court has created a pathway for prosecution, but at the same time, there are doubts about how they'll interpret their own ruling ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ.

The outcome of this case will depend on many factors, including the judges' impartiality and their interpretation of the law ๐Ÿ’ก. It's not just about "following the rules" or being a "good guy," but also about doing what's right in a given situation ๐Ÿค. The question is, will they be able to separate their personal opinions from the facts? โš–๏ธ
 
๐Ÿค” I'm really hoping that this latest SC ruling in Martin v US is a game changer for people like the woman in Minneapolis who get caught up in all this federal-immunity stuff. It's just so unfair when you're already vulnerable because of your immigration status, and then some cop gets to walk free just because they claim it was part of their "official duties". ๐Ÿš” The fact that Neagle happened over a century ago doesn't change the fact that it's still being used as an excuse for cops to get away with murder. I'm all for holding people accountable, regardless of what branch of government they're from. It's time for some real action and not just more loopholes and partisan politics ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
The whole thing about federal immunity feels like a big ol' mess ๐Ÿคฏ. I mean, we already have enough issues with police brutality and corruption, and now you're telling me that some suit-wearing lawyer can just swoop in and say "oh, sorry officer, but the feds get to cover your butt"? ๐Ÿ™„

And don't even get me started on the politics of it all. It's like they want us to believe that some high-up court decision is going to magically make all this go away... meanwhile, people are still dying or getting hurt by these officers who are supposed to be serving and protecting. Like, what's the real deal here? ๐Ÿค‘
 
I think this is a bit of an oversimplification to say that federal officers are only protected by "necessary and proper" actions... I mean, what's the definition of necessary and proper, right? ๐Ÿค” It seems like there's still some wiggle room for interpretation. And let's be real, even if Neagle wasn't fully protected in 1890, it's unlikely that the Supreme Court would've decided to take action then either... time just didn't work out that way.

But seriously, this whole thing feels like a classic case of "who gets to decide what's 'necessary and proper'?" - the officers themselves, or the courts? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
๐Ÿค” this whole thing just got super complicated! think about it - a lady gets shot by an immigration officer in Minneapolis and now we gotta wonder if that officer can get away with it? ๐Ÿšจ meanwhile, some dude from like 1890 gets a rule that basically says federal officers are above the law if they're doing their job right? ๐Ÿ˜ฌ but then there's this new ruling from 2025 that says nope, not so much! ๐Ÿค what's even crazier is that now we gotta figure out whether that officer can get prosecuted for breaking state law... or not. ๐Ÿ™„
 
I'm so nervous about this case ๐Ÿคฏ... I don't think the fact that there are a lot of immigration agents in Minneapolis should protect someone from being held accountable for killing someone. The idea that federal immunity means you're above the law is kinda scary, don't you think? ๐Ÿ˜ฌ Like what if those agents were using excessive force to intimidate people or break some community rules? It's like we need more accountability, not less ๐Ÿšซ... I'm keeping my fingers crossed that justice will be served in this case ๐Ÿ’ช
 
I gotta say, this whole thing with federal officers and state law is super murky ๐Ÿคฏ. The idea that they're supposed to be above the law because of some outdated ruling from 1890 just doesn't add up. I mean, what if an officer was just having a bad day and overreacted? Shouldn't we hold them accountable for their actions?

And don't even get me started on how politicized this whole thing is ๐Ÿคข. If it's going to be decided by conservative Republicans, that's not justice โ€“ that's just more of the same old partisan nonsense.

I'm hoping the judges in the case will look at the facts and do what's right, rather than getting swayed by politics. We need to make sure our law enforcement is held to a higher standard, even if it means going against some outdated rules ๐Ÿ™.
 
๐Ÿค” I'm so worried about this case, I hope the justice system can handle it fairly. As a parent, I want to know that my child's safety is protected and that those in power are held accountable for their actions. The fact that federal officers could be shielded from prosecution if they break state law just doesn't sit right with me ๐Ÿšซ. We need clear laws and consistent enforcement, not more gray areas and partisan politics ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ.
 
๐Ÿค” This whole thing is super weird... I mean, think about it - a lady gets shot by an immigration officer in Minneapolis and suddenly we're talking about some dude who killed someone way back in 1890? ๐Ÿ™„ It's like the system is all "oh, sorry, our guy didn't break any federal laws, so we get to just let him slide". But then the Supreme Court comes along and says "nope, not you, buddy" with that Martin v. United States ruling... but it still leaves a lot of room for interpretation.

And what's up with all these statues that supposedly protect officers from prosecution? It feels like they're more like get-out-of-jail-free cards than actual laws. ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ I'm not sure how the judges are gonna rule on this one, either... with six Republican justices, it's definitely gonna be a wild ride to watch. Will the officer get away scot-free or will justice be served? Only time will tell! ๐Ÿ‘€
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole thing ๐Ÿคฏ. So the Supreme Court just kinda... reworded the rules about federal immunity? Like, in 1890 they said "hey, we got your back, Marshal Neagle" but now it's like "hold up, buddy, you gotta follow state law too"? I get why they'd wanna clarify that though - all those years of dodgy interpretations are a bit much.

But here's the thing: this whole situation feels kinda... nostalgic? Like, remember when our country was all about fairness and justice? ๐Ÿ™„ And don't even get me started on the politics involved... it's like we're right back in the 90s again, with all the partisanship and whatnot. I'm not sure if that's progress or just a different kind of mess.

What really gets my goat is how these federal agents are patrolling our cities without any real accountability ๐Ÿš”. Like, who gave them the green light to do this? And now we're stuck with a system where it's all about who's got the most influence on the court? It's like... can't we just have some actual justice for once? ๐Ÿ˜ฉ
 
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