Felipe Massa accused of making 'misguided attempt' to take 2008 F1 title from Lewis Hamilton as 'crashgate' court hearing begins

Felipe Massa's case for the 2008 Formula One drivers' championship title faces major hurdles as Bernie Ecclestone and his team argue that Massa made a "misguided attempt" to reopen the result of the race.

Massa, who finished runner-up behind Lewis Hamilton in the final standings, is claiming damages for loss of earnings and sponsorship. He also wants declarations that the FIA acted in breach of its regulations and should have cancelled or adjusted the results of the Singapore Grand Prix.

However, lawyers for Ecclestone and his team say Massa's claims are "torturous" and "overly ambitious". They claim that Massa drove poorly in the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix, which ultimately led to him losing the championship. The defendants also argue that Massa overlooks a catalogue of his own errors.

The court has heard that Renault ordered Nelson Piquet Jr to deliberately crash during the race, bringing out a safety car and changing the course of history for Massa's team. However, lawyers for Ecclestone and FOM say that this was not the cause of Massa's failure to win points in the race.

Massa is seeking declarations on several grounds, including breach of contract or duty by the FIA. His lawyer says that Ecclestone knew about the deliberate crash but failed to investigate it. However, Ecclestone's lawyers say that Massa's claims are a "misguided attempt" to reopen the result of the 2008 championship.

The case is set to conclude on Friday, with a ruling likely at a later date.
 
πŸ€” so what's going on here? Felipe Massa's trying to claim some cash from Bernie Ecclestone and the FIA after finishing second in the drivers' championship... but it's like he's expecting a free pass just 'cause his team got "helped" by that Nelson Piquet Jr crash πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ. Newsflash, Felipe: if you're gonna make claims, you gotta back 'em up with some solid evidence... and from what I'm seeing, your case is looking pretty shaky 😬. And can we please talk about how unfair it is to blame the FIA for all this? They're not the ones who made the rules, they're just enforcing 'em πŸ™„. It's gonna be a tough road ahead for Massa... and I gotta say, I'm kinda rooting for Bernie on this one 😊.
 
I gotta say, this whole thing is wild 🀯. I mean, can you believe Felipe Massa's team trying to get a second bite at the cherry? Like, dude, the cat's out of the bag already. Bernie Ecclestone and his crew are just trying to protect their interests here.

But at the same time, I feel for Massa - he did come close to winning that championship πŸ†. And let's be real, if Nelson Piquet Jr had crashed on purpose, that would've changed everything 🚨. So, who knows? Maybe there's some truth to Massa's claims after all.

The thing is, the FIA and FOM have a lot of power in this situation πŸ’ͺ. They can just dismiss these allegations as a "misguided attempt" and move on with their lives πŸ‘‹. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out on Friday πŸ“š
 
I'm low-key surprised by Felipe Massa's claims πŸ€”. I mean, we all know what happened in that Singapore GP - Renault's "accident" had the whole outcome of the championship changed! It's not like Bernie Ecclestone didn't have eyes on it... but at the same time, Massa was pretty rubbish that day πŸ˜…. The fact that his lawyers are trying to spin it as FIA failure is a bit dodgy. Either way, I think there's gonna be some juicy drama coming out of this case πŸš—πŸ’¨
 
Omg this is so crazy! 🀯 I feel for Felipe Massa, he really got robbed of that championship and now he's trying to get some justice. But at the same time, Bernie Ecclestone's team seems super aggressive, you know? 😬 It's like they're not even acknowledging what happened with Nelson Piquet Jr crashing into the wall on purpose! πŸš—πŸ’₯

Massa is right to want declarations that the FIA acted in breach of its regulations, I mean come on, it's not like he's just making this up! 😊 But at the same time, his lawyer needs to be more realistic about the case. It's gonna be a tough battle.

I'm rooting for Massa here, he deserves some kind of closure on this whole thing. Let's hope he gets what he's asking for and can finally put this behind him 🀞
 
ugh I dont get why massa wants to reopen his own failure πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ like even if ecclestone's team says he made mistakes and stuff, doesnt that kinda prove that the fia messed up too? I mean we all know piquet jr was ordered to crash by renault... it's not like massa just lost on purpose. anyway, i'm all for giving massa a fair chance but at this point it seems like his team is being super unreasonable. Bernie ecclestone and co are basically saying that massa is trying to blame everyone else for his own bad luck πŸ€”
 
I feel like I'm stuck in the 90s when it comes to F1 drama... πŸ˜’ All these years later and Massa's still trying to get that championship title. It's crazy how much controversy surrounds this one guy's failure (or should I say, alleged misfortune? πŸ™„). I mean, come on, Bernie Ecclestone's lawyers are really stretching it with the "misguided attempt" claim... sounds like something out of a bad spy novel πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™‚οΈ. And can we please not forget about Nelson Piquet Jr and his role in all this? It feels like we're back to those dodgy ref decisions from the early 2000s πŸ˜…. I just hope Massa gets some closure (and maybe a decent payout) out of this whole ordeal... but let's be real, it's going to take a lot more than that for him to get his championship title πŸ†πŸ’ͺ
 
I'm totally with Bernie Ecclestone here πŸ€”... like, come on Felipe, you can't just claim damages because your team messed up and your own driving was pretty mediocre that day πŸ˜‚. And what's with all these 'torturous' claims? Massa made some mistakes, so now he wants to sue everyone? No way! The whole FIA thing about Nelson Piquet Jr was a dirty trick, but Massa's team should've been more on top of it, not him trying to drag everyone else down πŸ‘Ž. And as for the deliberate crash, that's just one small part of the whole mess... don't expect a win now because you're too busy being a sore winner πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
omg u guys can't even imagine how stressful it must be for felipe massa 🀯 he's already runner up in the championship and now he's fighting for damages lol but seriously, the whole situation with nelson piquet jr is wild πŸ€” the fact that renault ordered him to crash and the fia didn't investigate is just insane 😲 and now massa's lawyers are saying ecclestone knew about it but still went ahead and closed the result of the championship πŸ™„ it's all so convoluted and frustrating πŸ’β€β™€οΈ at the end of the day, i just hope massa gets some justice for his losses and can move on from this whole thing 🀞
 
omg can u believe this 🀯 so like massa was trying to claim damages and stuff from ecclestone but his lawyers are saying he's just being greedy lol what's the deal with the safety car thing tho? i remember it happening in the race πŸš— and yeah renault did order that crash but doesn't that mean massa had a legit reason to get upset? anyway, i'm not sure why ecclestone is still trying to dispute this after all these years...i guess u can never have too much money πŸ’Έ
 
Ugh 🀯 this whole thing just feels so messed up! Like, can't they just admit that Renault did indeed order Piquet Jr to crash and leave Massa out of the running? πŸ™„ It's not like it's a simple case of "oh no, Massa drove poorly" or whatever Ecclestone is trying to spin this as. The fact remains, the safety car was called due to deliberate interference, and that completely changed the outcome of the race! 😑
 
πŸ€” this whole thing feels like a mess... Felipe Massa's trying to reopen the 2008 championships but it seems like he's forgetting that Nelson Piquet Jr was actually forced to crash on purpose by Renault 😱 and his own team. It's all very complicated and I just can't see why Massa is going to win this case... Bernie Ecclestone's lawyers are right, it does seem like a misguided attempt to reopen something that's already been decided years ago πŸ•°οΈ. And even if the FIA did breach some contract, did they actually lose anyone any money? πŸ€‘
 
πŸ€” The whole thing just seems so...complicated πŸ™„. I mean, let's break it down - Massa wants damages for losing out on the championship title, but his own driving in Singapore wasn't exactly stellar πŸš—πŸ’¨. And then there's this whole thing about Renault ordering Piquet Jr to crash...but is that really the FIA's fault? πŸ˜•

It feels like Massa is trying to shift the blame away from his own performance and onto everyone else πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. The question is, was Ecclestone actually aware of this whole thing going on behind the scenes? If so, did he do nothing to stop it? πŸ€”

At the end of the day, I think we'll see a verdict that splits the difference - Massa doesn't get his damages, but Ecclestone's team doesn't entirely escape scrutiny either πŸ™ƒ. It's just one big mess, and I'm not sure anyone's coming out looking totally clean πŸ’¦.
 
πŸ€” this whole thing is so crazy! Felipe Massa is trying to claim damages for not winning the championship, but it's like he's blaming everyone else πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ except himself. Lewis Hamilton was doing everything right, and it just didn't go in his favor. And let's be real, Renault did order that crash on purpose, so you can blame them too πŸ˜’. The fact that Massa is trying to reopen the result of a 7-year-old championship is just wild 🀯. I feel bad for him, but at the same time, it's like he's trying to rewrite history πŸ“š. Fingers crossed the court sees sense and shuts this down soon πŸ‘‹
 
🀯 This whole thing is wild lol, I mean Felipe Massa thinks he can just come out of retirement and claim damages from Bernie Ecclestone? πŸ€‘ It's like trying to ride a bike that's been broken for years, you know? πŸ˜‚ The fact that Nelson Piquet Jr crashed on purpose and changed the course of history is wild though. I feel bad for Massa, he got robbed of the championship, but his lawyer is being super dramatic about it 🀣. And Ecclestone's lawyers are just trolling him hard with "torturous" and "overly ambitious". πŸ˜‚ It's gonna be a juicy verdict when it comes out! πŸ’Έ
 
I feel bad for Felipe Massa - he's been through so much already πŸ€•. I think it's unfair that Bernie Ecclestone and his team are pushing back hard against his claims, though. On one hand, you can't deny that Massa was having a tough season, and the crash in Singapore really changed everything. And yeah, Renault did order Nelson Piquet Jr to crash - that's not something Ecclestone or FOM should be able to just sweep under the rug 🚫.

But at the same time, I think Massa might be stretching it a bit by trying to reopen the whole championship result. It's like trying to rewrite history - I'm not sure even the court can do that 🀯. And his lawyers are saying he made some mistakes himself during the season... I don't know, man. It feels like they're just trying to get a payout for losing out on sponsorship and whatnot πŸ’Έ.

Anyway, it's all going to be decided in the end - I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it plays out πŸ€”. One thing's for sure: this whole situation is still pretty confusing even years later 😩.
 
😐 This whole thing seems super sketchy. I mean, if Renault really did order Piquet Jr to crash, that's a huge deal. It sounds like Massa is getting shafted in this whole situation. πŸ’Έ The FIA should totally be held accountable for not investigating it sooner. πŸ€” But at the same time, Massa does have some responsibility for his own mistakes during the race... maybe he wasn't the only one to blame? πŸ™„
 
omg u think massa's gonna win dis case ?? like i'm trying to imagine how he'd even get away w/ claiming the fia messed up over that nelson piquet thing... but tbh i think his lawyers are pulling some pretty weak strings here. massa did choke big time in that singapore gp, and all this talk about renault ordering nelson to crash is just a nice distraction from massa's own mistakes. and btw, who even cares about the 2008 championship anymore lol? it's old news
 
I think Massa's got a legit shot here πŸ€‘. I mean, come on, who doesn't love an underdog story? And let's be real, the whole Nelson Piquet Jr fiasco is still shady AF πŸ€₯. If Ecclestone knew about it and just chose to turn a blind eye, that's some bad karma right there.

Massa's team made some rookie mistakes in 2008, but I think he's got a stronger case than people are giving him credit for. And let's not forget, he was only runner-up, which is still no small feat πŸ’ͺ. The FIA needs to step up and own their part in the whole thing. It's not like Massa made some drastic change in his driving style or anything... it just doesn't add up.

I'm keeping my eyes on this one πŸ‘€. Who knows what the verdict will be? But I've got a feeling Massa's gonna get some justice πŸ’―
 
omg u no wut?? felipe massa is getting roasted by bernie ecclestone and his team lol they r sayin massa made a "misguided attempt" to reopen the results of the 2008 championship πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ anywayz massa is tryna get damages 4 losin out on sponsorship and sumthin πŸ€‘ but his lawyers r sayin it's all just torturous πŸ™„ they r sayin massa drove bad in singapore 🏎️ and that renault ordered nelson piquet jr to crash lol wut a coincidence πŸ˜‚ so like massa wants declarations dat the fia acted wrong 4 not investigatin the crash sooner πŸ’β€β™‚οΈ but ecclestone's lawyers r all "nope u did it urself massa" πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ fingers crossed for massa tho, wanna see him get some justice 🀞
 
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