The interview is with Hans van Manen, a choreographer and the partner of Erwin Olaf, a photographer. They discuss their collaboration on a dance project called "Dance in Close-Up" for Hans' 90th birthday, which featured photos taken by Erwin. The conversation also touches on Erwin's artistic process, his ability to direct people on set, and how he became "his photographs." The interview is accompanied by images from the Stedelijk Museum Amsterdam's retrospective of Erwin Olaf's work, titled "Freedom," which includes a section on dance featuring the collaboration between Hans van Manen and Erwin Olaf.