Ukrainian soldiers see Trump plan as capitulation, even as they dream of peace

Ukrainian soldiers are deeply skeptical of a proposed peace plan that would see them abandon key territories to Russian forces, with many viewing it as a form of capitulation. For some, the idea is even more galling than the initial assault by Russia in 2022.

The plan would involve recognizing the de facto control of Russian-backed separatists in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, areas that have been fiercely contested since the conflict began. This prospect has sparked outrage among Ukrainian forces, with many arguing that such a deal would be a betrayal of the country's sovereignty.

Some analysts believe that Ukraine should consider a peace agreement, even one that is punitive in nature, due to growing recruitment challenges and reports of desertion within its military ranks. However, others warn against rushing into any deal that could compromise Ukraine's territorial integrity.

"I am against giving up those parts of Donetsk region that we still hold," said Rzhavskyi, a 44-year-old Ukrainian soldier fighting in the east. "Of course, for me this is a painful issue, because all of this is happening in my homeland."

Rzhavskyi commands a drone unit and has been on the front lines since the full-scale Russian invasion began four years ago. He has seen the devastating impact of war firsthand, including the destruction of his health.

If peace were to be achieved, Rzhavskyi would focus on recovery and rebuilding his life with his two sons, ages 5 and 14. However, he emphasized that any decision about abandoning Ukrainian positions must come from military leadership, not the government.

"If it comes without an explanation, it will not be carried out," Rzhavskyi said. "It is not the state leadership sitting in the trenches. It is our boys in the trenches. They have the right to decide."

Others, like Lieutenant Oleksandr, a 43-year-old Ukrainian special forces soldier stationed in the south, are equally adamant that their country cannot afford to make concessions on key territory.

"Nobody will make concessions on the size of the military, because it's our security guarantee," he said. "Nobody will make concessions on the territories, because it's our land and we stand here."

The situation is further complicated by Russia's superior numbers and ammunition, which has made it difficult for Ukrainian forces to counterattack.

Kyiv has struggled to recruit enough soldiers, with growing reports of desertion as the war drags on. This has led some analysts to suggest that a peace agreement could be a way to stabilize the situation and prevent further losses.

However, not everyone is convinced that such a deal would be beneficial for Ukraine. For Lieutenant Dmytro Melnyk, 46, a professional para athlete who competed at the Paris Paralympics last summer, the prospect of abandoning Ukrainian territory is unbearable.

"At the beginning of the war, we were like 'Go, go, go,' and it's not the case anymore," he said. "Obviously, I won't stop until the war is done, but my soul is torn."

Melnyk's experience has left him with a deep-seated fear of death, which he says is constant.

In Kyiv, the situation remains grim, with soldiers on both sides weary of the ongoing conflict. As negotiations continue, it remains to be seen whether Ukraine will be able to find a peaceful resolution that does not compromise its sovereignty and territorial integrity.
 
I'm really surprised by how split opinions are on this plan 🀯. I mean, I can understand why Ukrainian soldiers would be skeptical - it's their country they're fighting for, after all πŸ˜•. But at the same time, I get why some analysts think a peace agreement could be beneficial, even if it means giving up some territory πŸ€”.

I'm not sure what's more heartbreaking though - seeing Ukraine struggle to recruit soldiers or hearing these soldiers' stories of losing loved ones and being traumatized by war πŸ’”. If a peace plan could bring an end to this suffering without compromising their sovereignty, I think that's something worth considering πŸ™.

But what really got me was Rzhavskyi's comment about not wanting to give up any territory - it's like he's speaking for so many of us who just want to see the war end and get on with our lives πŸ™„. Can't we all just try to find a middle ground here? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
I dont think ukrainians should give up any territory like that its not gonna happen πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ. I mean, they've been fighting for four years already and losing guys left & right. Can't imagine how hard it must be to just give up on something like that. My cousin's a gamer and he's always saying "try before you buy" but when it comes to war its way more complicated than just taking a stand πŸ€”. I think ukrainians need to figure out a different strategy to deal with russia, maybe not gonna work if they give up their territory tho
 
πŸ€” The whole thing just doesn't sit right w/ me... like, if we're gonna abandon key territories 2 Russia, we gotta consider the bigger picture 🌐. I mean, Ukraine's already facing some serious recruitment challenges & desertion issues, so a peace agreement might be necessary to stabilize things 🀝. But if it means giving up control of Donetsk & Luhansk, that's just a no-go for me πŸ˜’.

I feel 4 Rzhavskyi & the other soldiers who are straight-up against any deal that compromises Ukrainian sovereignty πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ. They're the ones on the front lines, facing the harsh realities of war every day πŸ’₯. We gotta support them, not just throw 'em under the bus πŸ‘Š.

And let's be real, Russia's got a serious upper hand here 🀯. If we can't even counter their numbers & ammo, why should we give up our territory? πŸ€” It just doesn't add up, you know? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
I dont think ukrainians should just hand over parts of their country like this. Reminds me of those old east european communist countries where they gave up so much in the end. Its all about pride and sovereignty, you know? I mean, my granddad used to talk about how they fought for independence back in the 90s, and now its being threatened like that again. Russia might have more guns and men, but Ukraine has heart, you feel me?
 
πŸ€” I feel bad for these guys who have been fighting nonstop for 4 years already... They're so tired, not just physically but mentally too πŸ€•. I think they deserve some support, like mental health services or something. We always talk about how hard the soldiers' lives are, but we rarely discuss how to help them after the war ends πŸ™.

I also don't get why we can't find a way for Ukraine to negotiate with Russia without sacrificing their territory πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. It's like, what's the point of having a peace plan if it means giving up everything? Can't we just find some common ground here? πŸ’‘
 
πŸ’‘ I think its good they're having these talks, even if some ppl dont wanna hear it πŸ€” its true we cant keep fighting on forever & sometimes u gotta think of the bigger pic 🌍. But at the same time, i can see why its hard for these soldiers to just hand over parts of their homeland πŸ‘Š its like they're losin a part of themselves πŸ’”. maybe theres a way to find a middle ground that makes everyone feel heard & validated? 🀝
 
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