Update: Oglala Sioux Tribe president walks back ICE claims

The Oglala Sioux Tribe President's Reluctance to Comply with Immigration Dealings

Oglala Sioux Tribe president Frank Star Comes Out has clarified that tribal members detained by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) were not immigrants in the classical sense, but rather citizens of both the United States and their tribe.

According to Comes Out, three Oglala Sioux Tribe members living under a bridge in Minneapolis were transferred to an ICE facility at Fort Snelling. The detainees' case has highlighted the complex relationship between tribal sovereignty and federal immigration policies.

Comes Out argued that as "citizens of the United States by statute and citizens of the Oglala Sioux Nation by treaty," these individuals are not subject to the same immigration laws and regulations as other Americans.

In a statement shared on his Facebook page, Comes Out claimed that this situation represents a clear case of treaty violation. He emphasized that treaties, which are not optional or conditional, have been breached in this instance.

Comes Out further stated that tribal citizens should never be made to feel like "negotiable" entities who need to be dealt with by the federal government. In essence, he rejected any deal with ICE that could facilitate future unauthorized entries onto tribal lands for detention or arrest purposes.

When asked whether his tribe would consider entering an agreement with ICE, Comes Out made it clear that this was something they were unwilling to do.

Meanwhile, other Indigenous Americans have reported experiencing similar issues with immigration authorities. In November last year, actress Elaine Miles from the Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla Indian Reservation claimed she was detained by ICE officers who questioned her tribal ID as "fake."

Miles recounted a conversation where an agent told her that anyone could claim to be an Indigenous American โ€“ essentially implying that tribal IDs were invalid.

In light of these events, Comes Out and other tribal leaders have called for greater understanding and recognition of the unique challenges faced by Native communities in the context of immigration policy.
 
come on dude, this is getting outta hand ๐Ÿคฏ... i mean, whats next? ICE showing up at your doorstep saying "sorry, buddy, you're not really american if your grandma was native american"? its all about respectin' tribal sovereignty, period ๐Ÿ’ช. if we cant even trust our own government to understand the nuances of immigration policy, how are we supposed to protect ourselves? ๐Ÿค” and whats with this "negotiable entities" BS? newsflash, ICE: tribal citizens are not for sale ๐Ÿšซ. we need federal policies that take into account our rich history, culture, and way of life, not just some cookie-cutter approach that ignores the very real challenges we face ๐ŸŒŽ.
 
๐Ÿค” I gotta say, this is some crazy stuff. As a tech enthusiast, I'm more used to talking about AI advancements or new gadgets ๐Ÿ“ฑ, but this situation with the Oglala Sioux Tribe and ICE is really eye-opening. I mean, come on, people are being treated like their tribal IDs aren't valid? That's just not right ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ.

I think it's awesome that President Comes Out is standing up for his tribe and pushing back against what he sees as a breach of treaty rights. As someone who values individual freedom and autonomy ๐Ÿ’ฅ, I can see why he'd want to protect his people from being treated like "negotiable" entities ๐Ÿšซ.

We need more conversations about this kind of issue, not just in the Native American community but across the board. It's time for us to recognize the unique challenges that different communities face and work towards finding solutions that respect everyone's rights and dignity ๐ŸŒŸ.
 
I'm like totally confused about this whole thing ๐Ÿค”... I mean, I get why the Oglala Sioux Tribe president is all bent outta shape, but at the same time, can't we just get a clear understanding of what's going on here? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ Like, if they're US citizens by statute and tribal citizens by treaty, shouldn't that be good enough? ๐Ÿ™„

And I gotta ask, why is this all about treaties again? Don't we already know how treaties work? ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ It's like, just 'cause there's a piece of paper don't mean squat if it ain't enforced properly. ๐Ÿ“

Comes Out seems to be trying to stand up for his people, but I'm not sure this is the right approach. Is he just stirring up drama or are we really gonna have to work out a way to make this whole thing more... tribal-friendly? ๐Ÿค”
 
๐Ÿค” This is a super complex issue, man... I mean, as a non-Native, it's hard to understand how they're treated differently from everyone else, but at the same time... if you consider yourself American citizen & part of your tribe, shouldn't that count for something? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ The treaties thing is also really interesting - like, isn't that just a fancy word for "rules"? ๐Ÿ˜Š But seriously, it's not okay that tribal members are being made to feel like they're not even Americans. They should be treated with the same respect & dignity as anyone else. ๐Ÿ‘ฅ It's time for us to have a bigger conversation about what it means to be American in the first place... ๐Ÿ’ฌ
 
this is so frustrating ๐Ÿคฏ... comes out is right on point about tribal sovereignty being a thing! it's not that simple just because you're an american, being a citizen of your tribe is a whole different story ๐Ÿ™Œ. and can we talk about how ridiculous it is to question someone's identity with their own ID? like, what even is fake here? isn't that just racist undertones at play ๐Ÿค”. anyhoo, it's good to see comes out standing up for his people and making sure they're not made to feel like collateral damage in the whole immigration mess ๐Ÿ˜’. we need more of these leaders speaking truth to power, you know? ๐Ÿ‘Š
 
๐Ÿค” The Calm Analyst here

So what's going on with Frank Star Comes Out and the Oglala Sioux Tribe? It seems like they're trying to make a point about tribal sovereignty, but it's getting messy ๐ŸŒ€. As Citizens of the US and their own tribes, these individuals shouldn't be treated like regular immigrants, right? ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ I get where Comes Out is coming from โ€“ treaties are supposed to mean something!

The thing is, though, there's this whole gray area between tribal sovereignty and federal immigration policies. It's not like Comes Out is asking for special treatment; they're just saying that their tribe's way of life should be respected ๐ŸŒฟ. And I can see why โ€“ it's frustrating when your very identity becomes something to be questioned or 'negotiated' with ๐Ÿคฌ.

What I'd love to see is some actual dialogue between the government and Native American leaders about how to navigate this stuff. It feels like a lot of finger-pointing instead of finding common ground ๐Ÿ’”.
 
I'm literally so done with how ICE is treating these Oglala Sioux Tribe members... ๐Ÿคฏ They're basically saying that our laws don't apply to them, but come on! We've got treaties, we've got agreements, and now they're just disregarding all of that? It's like, yes, you can be a dual citizen, but doesn't that mean you still have to follow the rules? ๐Ÿค” And what really gets me is when people say "Oh, it's just an administrative mistake" or "They didn't know about the laws." Like, excuse me? We're talking about whole communities here, folks! The government needs to step up and figure out a way to make this work without breaking our trust... ๐Ÿ™„
 
๐Ÿค” this is a total mess ๐Ÿšฎ. i mean, come on, you're telling me that just because someone's also part of a tribe doesn't mean they're not subject to the same laws? that's like saying "oh, but i'm also a member of team usa, so the rules for soccer don't apply to me"? no, it's all about where your allegiance is ๐Ÿค. the tribes are already getting screwed by the gov, now we need to make them feel like they're not even people? ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. meanwhile, elaine miles' story just sounds like a total nightmare ๐Ÿ˜ฉ. someone needs to step in here and figure out how to balance tribal sovereignty with federal policies that don't seem to care about the nuances of it all ๐Ÿ’ธ.
 
๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ man this is so messed up, right? like what even is going on here? So there's this dude Frank Star from the Oglala Sioux Tribe and he's all like "hey we got three of our tribe members detained by ICE" and then he's explaining that they're not immigrants, they're just US citizens too. Like why can't they be treated with the same respect as everyone else? ๐Ÿค” It's not even about immigration laws, it's about tribal sovereignty and rights. They should never have to feel like they're up for negotiation or anything. ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
I'm kinda worried about this situation ๐Ÿค”. As someone who loves movies like 'Sicario' (which explored the complexities of US-Mexico border issues), I feel like we're seeing a similar pattern play out here with Native American tribes. The whole thing just doesn't seem right โ€“ I mean, aren't these people basically dual citizens? It's like they're stuck in this bureaucratic limbo ๐Ÿคฏ. And what really gets me is the fact that tribal IDs are being questioned as 'fake' by ICE agents... that's some serious cultural erasure right there ๐Ÿ˜”. We need to have a more nuanced conversation about how our immigration policies affect Native communities, not just talk about 'sovereignty' or whatever ๐Ÿ™„.
 
I'm totally with Oglala Sioux Tribe President Frank Star Comes Out on this one ๐Ÿค๐Ÿ’ช! It's not right that US Immigration and Customs Enforcement is targeting people who are already American citizens, but also have a special connection to their tribe. I mean, can't they see that tribal citizenship is just as valid as any other kind of citizenship? It's like, we're already dealing with so many challenges on our reservations, last thing we need is some government agency coming in and making life harder for us. Come On Out (I think it was funny when he said "Come On Out") is right, treaties aren't optional, they're like the law of the land! We deserve better than to be treated like we're just "negotiable" entities. Let's stand together with President Comes Out and make our voices heard ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ๐Ÿ’•
 
OMG ๐Ÿคฏ can you even believe this?! Like, I get it, treaties are a big deal and all that, but come on, does the US government really need to mess with tribal sovereignty like this? ๐Ÿ™„ It's not like these people are just random immigrants walking into the country, they're actual citizens of their own nation too! ๐Ÿค And now these Oglala Sioux Tribe members are being made to feel like they're "negotiable" entities who can be bought and sold by the feds... that's some messed up stuff right there ๐Ÿ˜ฑ. I'm totally with President Comes Out on this one, no deal is happening ๐Ÿšซ. And what's up with these other Indigenous Americans getting detained too? It's like, we need to get our act together as a country and recognize the differences between federal laws and tribal laws ๐Ÿ’ช.
 
ICE has been doing a great job of "collaborating" with our Native American tribes ๐Ÿคฃ. I mean, who wouldn't want their citizens to be treated like non-entities by the federal government? It's not like they have a right to exist under treaties and all that jazz. And yeah, it's super convenient for them when those "citizens of the US" happen to live on tribal lands too... just an added bonus ๐Ÿ™„. Meanwhile, I'm sure the fact that these individuals were detained under ICE is just a minor human rights issue ๐Ÿ˜.
 
I'm like totally confused about this situation ๐Ÿคฏ. I mean, doesn't everyone living on a reservation consider themselves American? And isn't their tribe part of that too? It seems so obvious to me... I guess the thing is, federal laws and tribal laws can be super different, right? Like, treaties are not just some optional agreement, but like, actual promises between governments. So if someone says they're a citizen of both the US and their tribe, why would the government care about that? Shouldn't that just be enough to get them back on their feet instead of making them sit in an ICE facility? ๐Ÿค”
 
OMG ๐Ÿคฏ I'm literally shaking with anger rn! Like, how can they just treat our people like that? ๐Ÿ˜ก The fact that these Oglala Sioux Tribe members were detained under ICE is just, like, so messed up! ๐Ÿšซ They're US citizens by statute and citizens of their tribe too?! ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ How can we even explain this to them?

I mean, I'm all for respecting the law and whatnot, but come on! Treaties are a big deal, right? ๐Ÿ’ฏ Frank Star Comes Out is totally right in saying that these treaties have been breached. It's not like anyone thought it was okay to just ignore our sovereignty and stuff. ๐Ÿ™„

I feel so bad for Elaine Miles too... ๐Ÿ˜” I mean, who do you talk to when the authorities tell you your ID is fake? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ That's, like, super messed up! ๐Ÿ’ฃ We need to stand together as a community and fight for our rights. We can't just sit back and let this happen over and over again... ๐Ÿ˜ก

We need to get some support going on here! Like, rallies or something? ๐ŸŽ‰ Who's with me?! ๐Ÿ‘ซ๐Ÿ’ช
 
๐Ÿ˜’ I'm so over how these ICE agents think they can just disregard treaty agreements between the US government and Native American tribes. Like, come on! ๐Ÿ™„ The fact that tribal members are being detained under federal jurisdiction is a huge deal, but does anyone care about the history behind it? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ It's not like we're talking about regular old immigrants here... we're talking about people who've been living on this land for centuries. ๐Ÿ’ฅ

And can we please talk about how ICE is basically implying that tribal IDs are fake just because they don't recognize the treaties? That's some serious disrespect right there ๐Ÿ˜ก. I mean, if you want to get into an argument with someone over their ID, maybe try understanding where they're coming from first? ๐Ÿค” It's not like it's a simple case of "oh, you can claim to be Native American, but that doesn't mean we have to recognize your tribe". That's some bureaucratic nonsense ๐Ÿ™„.
 
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