As the world finally punches back, was this the week Donald Trump went too far? | Jonathan Freedland

US President Donald Trump's recent threat to seize a European territory has left many wondering if he finally crossed the line. The fact that he made such a statement confirmed what should have been obvious since his return to office last year: under him, the US has become an unreliable ally, if not a foe of its one-time friends.

Trump's remarks about NATO allies being "a little off the frontlines" in Afghanistan were particularly despicable, as they insulted the families of British service personnel who lost their lives in that conflict. His latest venture, a "board of peace", is an attempt to supplant and monetize the post-1945 international architecture, replacing the UN with a Mar-a-Lago-style members' club where a permanent seat costs $1bn and decision-making power lies in the hands of Trump himself.

The fact that Vladimir Putin has been invited to this "board of peace", while Mark Carney was shut out, tells you all you need to know. The US's allies have long comforted themselves with the belief that Trump is an aberration who will one day be gone, allowing the old ways to resume. However, Trump has demonstrated that the formal restraints designed to hold a US president in check are easily swept away.

This raises a crucial question: what takes the place of the world we thought we knew? The answer is not yet clear, but it carries a whisper of hope. It's time for allies of the US to realize they cannot be in a position of such dependency on the US that they have to give in to its demands.

Carney's speech at Davos earlier this week was a stark warning: "The old order is not coming back... Nostalgia is not a strategy." Instead, longtime friends of the US should aim for a new arrangement, a new formation. The middle powers can combine to create a third path โ€“ an economic bloc with heft and a security alliance with muscle.

What would this look like? It would aim to provide a positive answer to the question that has loomed this last year: could Europe defend Ukraine, and itself, without the US? At present, the cold, hard answer is no. The goal is nothing less than a new alliance of western democracies no longer dependent on the US for their own defense.

It won't happen overnight, but it's essential that work begins now to reach this goal. As Jeremy Hunt told me, it would be "a major dereliction of duty" if they don't do the work to achieve this goal.

Increased defence spending will be key to remoulding politics in those countries who have enjoyed a peace dividend since the end of the cold war. It will also reshape Britain's relationship with Europe. The UK's departure from Brexit delusions and its contribution to Europe's defence will grant it something closer to frictionless trade.

There are opportunities here, including for Keir Starmer. He can present manifesto-breaking tax rises as a matter of national security. He can present closer ties to Europe the same way. He can leave Nigel Farage marooned on the wrong side of public opinion, fanboy to the man who insulted Britain's war dead.

The world we knew is dying, slain by Trump's would-be imperialism. But something else became visible this week: a new world waiting to be born.
 
๐Ÿคฏ I'm not sure if Trump has officially crossed the line yet, but it's clear he's testing the limits of what's acceptable ๐Ÿšซ. NATO is already feeling the strain under his leadership, and now this "board of peace" thing is just laughable ๐Ÿ˜‚. Who needs a $1bn membership fee and a Mar-a-Lago-style club when you've got the UN? ๐Ÿคฃ The fact that Putin gets invited while Mark Carney gets shut out says it all ๐Ÿ‘Š.

It's time for Europe to step up and take responsibility for its own defense ๐Ÿ’ช. They can't just rely on the US forever โฐ. We need a new alliance of western democracies, not some watered-down version of the old order ๐Ÿ“‰. The UK's got a chance to make some waves with Keir Starmer and his manifesto-breaking ideas ๐ŸŒŠ.

It's scary how much has changed since Trump took office ๐Ÿคฏ, but it's also kinda liberating ๐Ÿ˜Ž. We might just be able to create something new and better from the ashes of the old world ๐Ÿ”ฅ.
 
omg you guys are totally right about trump he's literally a threat to global stability ๐Ÿคฏ i mean what's next? him trying to take over europe or somethin? his remarks about nato and afghanistan were straight up despicable - who does he think he is makin' fun of people who died for their country?

anywayz, the idea of a new alliance without us support is super intriguing ๐Ÿค” like, wouldn't that be amazing to see europe and britain workin together on defense and economy? it's about time they did somethin to break free from us influence. increased defence spending makes total sense too - we can't just sit around and wait for the world to blow up

and keir starmer is gonna have a field day with this one - "manifesto-breaking tax rises" sounds like the perfect rallying cry for his party ๐Ÿค‘ he's got this chance to shift public opinion and make brexit look even more ridiculous. who knows, maybe we'll see a new era of british-europe cooperation in no time?
 
I mean, can you even imagine having to shell out $1bn to join a "board of peace" ๐Ÿค‘? Sounds like Mar-a-Lago on steroids! And what's with Trump trying to create his own international club while the UN is still around? It's like he thinks we're all just going to forget about the whole 'international cooperation' thing ๐Ÿ˜‚. I guess it's true what they say, 'you can't make this stuff up'. But seriously, I hope those European allies start talking and make their own move... it's time for them to stop being the US's sidekicks ๐Ÿคฃ. And btw, who needs that much money? Can't we just have a nice game of world diplomacy instead? ๐Ÿ˜œ
 
I'm getting really worried about our world right now ๐Ÿคฏ Trump's actions are just insane... I mean, a "board of peace" where you gotta pay $1bn for a seat? That's not governance, that's some kinda oligarchy ๐Ÿ’ธ. And Putin being invited to this while Mark Carney gets shut out? It's like they're speaking the same language or something ๐Ÿค.

I think our allies need to wake up and realize we can't just rely on the US all the time ๐ŸŒŽ. We need to create a new alliance, a new security system where we look out for each other ๐Ÿ’ช. It won't be easy, but we gotta start thinking about this now. Increased defense spending is key, and it's time for us to stop being soft on our own security ๐Ÿ‘Š.

Keir Starmer could be the one to lead the way ๐Ÿš€, presenting a new vision of Britain that's not just about Brexit, but about our place in the world ๐ŸŒ. We need to move away from Farage's toxic rhetoric and towards a brighter future for all of us ๐Ÿ’ซ. This is it, folks... we're on the cusp of something big ๐Ÿ”ฅ.
 
๐Ÿ˜’ Trumps comments about NATO are just another example of how unpredictable and unstable his admin is ๐Ÿ’ฅ. The whole "board of peace" thing is like a joke, like he's trying to create some kinda private club where only his buddies get to decide on world events ๐Ÿคฃ. And inviting Putin but shutting out Mark Carney? That's just embarrassing ๐Ÿ˜‚. I don't think it's about time for Europe to start looking at forming its own defense alliance or economic bloc tho ๐Ÿ’ธ. We need a coordinated effort if we're gonna stand up to Trump and show the world that we won't be intimidated ๐Ÿคฌ.
 
I'm worried about how the EU and NATO are gonna deal with the loss of trust ๐Ÿค”... it's like they're just gonna roll over and let the US dictate terms? I mean, can't they see that relying on the US for defense is not a solid plan? We need a new alliance, one that's based on shared values and interests, not just coziness ๐Ÿ˜’. And what's with this "board of peace" thing? It sounds like Trump's trying to create a puppet state ๐Ÿšซ. I guess it's a good thing Putin's not attending... but Mark Carney's speech was spot on - we can't keep nostalgic for the past, we need to move forward ๐Ÿ’ช. Increased defence spending is a must, and we should be looking into creating our own security alliances... like, a European army or something ๐Ÿค. It's time for us to take charge of our own destiny ๐Ÿ‘Š
 
I'm so concerned about the current state of global politics ๐Ÿค•. The US has become super unreliable and it's like they're not even taking their own allies seriously anymore ๐Ÿ˜’. I mean, come on, insulting the families of British service personnel who lost their lives in Afghanistan? That's just not right ๐Ÿšซ.

And what's with this "board of peace" thing? It sounds like a total joke to me ๐Ÿคฃ. A $1bn membership fee and Trump making all the decisions? Give me a break ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ. And inviting Putin but shutting out Mark Carney? That's just not right at all ๐Ÿ˜’.

It's time for Europe (and the rest of the world) to take matters into their own hands ๐Ÿ’ช. We need to start thinking about creating our own alliances and security systems that aren't dependent on the US ๐ŸŒ. Increased defense spending is a must, and it would be amazing if the UK could use its Brexit freedom to become even more integrated with Europe ๐Ÿ‘.

I'm so glad Jeremy Hunt is saying this is a major dereliction of duty for the UK government ๐Ÿ™. We need leaders who are willing to take on the challenge and build a new future, not just cling to old ways ๐Ÿ’ซ. And can you imagine if Keir Starmer used his platform to advocate for national security tax rises and closer ties with Europe? Genius! ๐Ÿค“
 
๐Ÿคฏ I mean, what's going on with Trump? He's literally making the US look like it can't be trusted anymore ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. The whole NATO thing was super lowkey and I'm still fuming about it ๐Ÿ’ฃ. And this "board of peace" idea is wild - who would've thought he'd try to sell a new international architecture? ๐Ÿ˜‚ Like, $1bn for a seat? Give me a break ๐Ÿค‘.

It's time for Europe (and the rest of us) to take matters into our own hands and not rely on Trump like we used to. The idea of a new economic bloc with security alliance is actually kinda cool ๐Ÿ‘Š. And can we please, please, PLEASE get rid of Brexit drama for good? ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ It's time to focus on creating a better future.

I love how Jeremy Hunt is calling out the need for increased defense spending - it's about time! ๐Ÿ’ช And Keir Starmer could totally capitalize on this by presenting a more European-focused agenda. Nigel Farage needs to be shut down ASAP ๐Ÿšซ. The world is changing, and we're either gonna adapt or get left behind ๐ŸŒŽ. Bring on the new world order... ๐Ÿ˜Š
 
๐Ÿ’ก I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole "board of peace" thing... it just seems like another way for Trump to flex his muscles and make himself the big cheese. ๐Ÿคฏ The fact that Putin gets invited but Carney doesn't is super telling, though. It's clear that Trump's idea of "peace" is pretty one-sided.

As for NATO allies getting a little too comfortable thinking Trump is just a blip on the radar... nope, he's proven time and again that he's more trouble than he's worth. ๐Ÿšซ I'm all for some kind of shift in international politics, but this new "third path" being proposed sounds like it could be a game-changer.

I'm intrigued by the idea of economic blocs and security alliances forming outside of the US, though. It would definitely require a major rethink from countries that've been too reliant on the US for defense. ๐Ÿ’ธ And can you imagine if Keir Starmer actually took bold action on tax rises and closer ties to Europe? ๐Ÿค“ That'd be some serious momentum-building.

But at the same time, I'm worried about how this new world order might play out. Is it possible that some countries will just get left behind or worse off in the process? ๐ŸŒŽ We need to make sure we're not trading one set of problems for another...
 
๐Ÿ’ก I think its wild how some people still have faith in NATO after all the antics of Trump ๐Ÿคฏ His remarks about NATO being "off the frontlines" is just another example of him not taking allies seriously. The whole idea of a "$1bn permanent seat" for Trump's "board of peace" is just laughable ๐Ÿ˜‚ It's clear he wants to create his own empire, rather than work with international institutions.

As for Europe defending itself without US help, I think that's a great starting point ๐Ÿ’ช Its not going to be easy, but they need to take control of their own defense. And its about time the middle powers stood up and created something new ๐ŸŒˆ We can't keep relying on the old order just because it's comfortable.

The fact that Carney was invited to Davos but Trump wasn't is telling ๐Ÿค It shows the US doesn't think it's above criticism. The UK's departure from Brexit is a chance for them to rebrand themselves and get closer to Europe ๐ŸŒ This new world might be messy, but its definitely overdue.
 
man i'm literally so done with trump he's like the ultimate wild card what even is this "board of peace" thing ๐Ÿคฏ i mean $1bn for a seat at the table lol like who can afford that anyway and Putin being invited but not mark carney? that's just shady fam. but seriously though europe needs to step up their game and stop relying on us for everything we need to get our act together and create our own defense alliance it's time to break free from trump's grasp ๐Ÿ’ช
 
omg how did it come to this ๐Ÿคฏ i remember when nato was like super solid but now its all about the us doing whatever trump feels like lol and whats with the "board of peace" thing?? sounds like just another way for him to get rich off his own ego ๐Ÿ’ธ anyway im kinda with carney on this one we cant keep relying on the us for everything and expecting them to be all noble and stuff... it feels like theyre just gonna do whatever makes em happy. so yeah let's make our own alliance or somethin' ๐Ÿค
 
I'm really worried about what's happening with US alliances ๐Ÿค•. Trump's latest move about the European territory is just ridiculous - it shows how unpredictable and unreliable he is. I think his allies should stop relying on him and start forming their own security alliance ๐Ÿค. They can't keep putting all their faith in one person, no matter how powerful they are. It's time for them to step up and take care of their own defense ๐Ÿ‘Š.

I also think this could be a great opportunity for the UK to shine ๐Ÿ’ก, especially now that Brexit is out of the way. By contributing more to Europe's defense, they can gain closer ties with other countries and leave some of that nationalist nonsense behind ๐Ÿšซ. And who knows, maybe Keir Starmer can become a real leader by taking on these big issues ๐Ÿค”.

It's not going to be easy, but I think it's time for a new world order to emerge ๐ŸŒŽ. We need more countries working together and supporting each other, rather than relying on one superpower to save the day ๐Ÿ’ช. The old ways are indeed coming to an end, and I'm excited to see what the future holds! ๐Ÿ”ฎ
 
๐Ÿคฏ I'm still reeling from Trump's comments about NATO... like, what even is that? ๐Ÿ˜‚ And then Carney says the old order isn't coming back and I'm like "finally" ๐Ÿ™Œ. We've been stuck in this cycle of US dominance for so long, it's refreshing to think about a new way forward.

But let's get real, building a new alliance won't be easy ๐Ÿค”. The UK's got its own issues with Brexit and Starmer needs to bring the heat ๐Ÿ’ช. And what about Germany? France? They're all in on this new thing together ๐Ÿ˜‚.

I'm curious to see how this plays out... will it be more of a NATO rebrand or something entirely new? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ Either way, I'm here for it ๐Ÿ‘Š
 
trump's latest move is straight outta mar-a-lago ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿ’ธ, and it's like he's trying to create his own mini-united nations club where he's the big cheese ๐Ÿคฃ. invite russia into this 'peace board' and shut out britain? it's just not right, man ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. what's next? is he gonna start making decisions for us like some kind of puppet master? ๐Ÿ•ธ๏ธ

anyway, i'm kinda intrigued by the idea of europe trying to do its own thing and forming a new security alliance ๐Ÿค. it's about time we stopped relying on trump and the us to save our skins ๐Ÿ’ช. and yeah, increased defence spending is key, 'cause if you can't defend yourself, who can you trust? ๐Ÿค”

and can we please get some real leadership from keir starmer already? ๐Ÿ™„ his manifestos are kinda boring, but i guess that's what he needs to shake off - being a yes-man to trumps imperial plans ๐Ÿ‘Š. the world is changing fast, and we need to adapt before it's too late โฐ. time for europe to take matters into its own hands ๐Ÿ’ฅ
 
I'm not surprised that Trump went all in on being an unreliable ally ๐Ÿคฃ... I mean, who needs allies when you can just threaten to take over someone's territory? ๐Ÿ˜‚ And honestly, $1bn for a seat at his "board of peace" sounds like a pretty sweet deal if you're into that kind of thing... who wouldn't want to shell out 10 grand for a spot on the 'cool kid' club? ๐Ÿ’ธ๐Ÿ‘Š Putin showing up is just proof that no one's taking Trump seriously... like, welcome to the club, Vlad! ๐Ÿคช
 
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