The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) has found that 12 police officers, mostly senior, had a case to answer for gross misconduct related to the Hillsborough disaster. However, none will face disciplinary proceedings because they have all retired or died. The IOPC's investigation was led by Deputy Director General Kathie Cashell, who described the findings as "a source of national shame".
Hillsborough families say 'we'll never get justice' as police escape punishment despite report's findings – as it happened
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around this one... 12 police officers, many of whom were super senior, had some serious misconduct going on during the Hillsborough disaster and yet NO ONE is being held accountable? 
It's like they just swept it all under the rug and moved on with their lives. The fact that they're either dead or retired means nothing to me... isn't accountability supposed to be about holding people in power to account for their actions, no matter what the timeline?And can we please talk about how embarrassing this is for our country?
IOPC's Deputy Director General Kathie Cashell said it was a "source of national shame" and honestly I think that's a huge understatement. It feels like we're being told to just move on and forget, but what about the families of those who lost their loved ones? What about the survivors who went through hell because of the police's incompetence?I need some answers here... how can we trust our law enforcement when they can't even get something as basic as a disaster response right?!
This is just infuriating and I'm still fuming about it.
Can't believe these cops got away with it... 12 officers, most of them high-ranking, had some serious skeletons in their closet and now they're just collecting pensions. I mean, a source of national shame? That's just a nice way of saying the system failed to hold people accountable for one of the darkest moments in British history. 
It's wild that a full investigation couldn't lead to any disciplinary action - retirement or death just isn't enough accountability, right? 
And what about the victims and their families? Did their voices really get heard in all this? I'm not saying the cops didn't do anything wrong, but it feels like justice was served by papering over the truth. 
The IOPC's report is just a bunch of empty words now...I mean, can you even imagine if these officers were from, say, a private company and got away scot-free? It's all so... convenient that they're all either dead or retired now. Like, what are the chances, right? The IOPC is supposed to be investigating police misconduct, but it looks like they're more interested in avoiding controversy than actually doing their job. And Kathie Cashell calling this a "source of national shame"? Yeah, sure, until someone starts demanding some actual accountability, that is. It's all about dodging the issue and giving the officers a free pass because of their age and... let's say, "retirement status".
Like, what are the chances, right? The IOPC is supposed to be investigating police misconduct, but it looks like they're more interested in avoiding controversy than actually doing their job. And Kathie Cashell calling this a "source of national shame"? Yeah, sure, until someone starts demanding some actual accountability, that is. It's all about dodging the issue and giving the officers a free pass because of their age and... let's say, "retirement status". [Image of a police officer with a red X through it, surrounded by a " expired" stamp]
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I'm so disappointed in this news . Can you believe that 12 police officers, mostly senior ones, were found guilty of gross misconduct over the Hillsborough disaster? It's like they got a free pass just because they're all retired or dead 
. I mean, I get that time has passed and people have moved on, but come on! The fact that none will face disciplinary proceedings is just unacceptable .
What really gets my goat is that Deputy Director General Kathie Cashell described the findings as "a source of national shame". That's putting it mildly
. These officers' actions were a travesty and they should be held accountable for their part in one of the worst football disasters in history. It just feels like justice wasn't served here 
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I know it's been over 30 years since the disaster, but that's even more reason to make sure these officers face consequences. We need to learn from our past mistakes and hold people in power accountable for their actions. Anything less is just not good enough.
. Can you believe that 12 police officers, mostly senior ones, were found guilty of gross misconduct over the Hillsborough disaster? It's like they got a free pass just because they're all retired or dead . I mean, I get that time has passed and people have moved on, but come on! The fact that none will face disciplinary proceedings is just unacceptable .What really gets my goat is that Deputy Director General Kathie Cashell described the findings as "a source of national shame". That's putting it mildly
. These officers' actions were a travesty and they should be held accountable for their part in one of the worst football disasters in history. It just feels like justice wasn't served here .I know it's been over 30 years since the disaster, but that's even more reason to make sure these officers face consequences. We need to learn from our past mistakes and hold people in power accountable for their actions. Anything less is just not good enough
.man... can u believe it? 12 senior cops got found guilty of gross misconduct but no one's gonna face any consequences because they're all retired or dead . it's like they think they're above the law or something, you know? i mean i get that time has passed and people move on with their lives, but to just let them slide like this is pretty messed up.
i feel for the families of the people who died at hillsborough back in 87. they deserve justice and closure. it's not too much to ask for some accountability from those in power. i wish more people were speaking out about this kinda thing, you know? we need to keep pushing for change so that something like this never happens again 
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the fact that the IOPC describes these findings as a "source of national shame" is pretty telling, right? it's clear they're not happy with what they found and are trying to hold people accountable... even if it's just through their report. i guess we'll have to keep pushing for more concrete action from the authorities 
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. it's like they think they're above the law or something, you know? i mean i get that time has passed and people move on with their lives, but to just let them slide like this is pretty messed up.i feel for the families of the people who died at hillsborough back in 87
. they deserve justice and closure. it's not too much to ask for some accountability from those in power. i wish more people were speaking out about this kinda thing, you know? we need to keep pushing for change so that something like this never happens again .the fact that the IOPC describes these findings as a "source of national shame" is pretty telling, right? it's clear they're not happy with what they found and are trying to hold people accountable... even if it's just through their report
. i guess we'll have to keep pushing for more concrete action from the authorities .I'm still trying to wrap my head around this one... 12 officers found guilty of gross misconduct over Hillsborough and no disciplinary action? It's just not right, you know? I mean, I was expecting some real accountability from those who were supposed to be keeping us safe that day.
It's like the system is protecting its own, rather than serving justice. The investigation may have found evidence of wrongdoing, but retirement and death seem to be getting in the way of consequences. It's just frustrating, especially for the families of the victims. They've waited so long for answers, and now it seems like those officers are getting a free pass.
I think it's time for some real change. We need to make sure that those who abuse their power are held accountable, no matter what rank they hold. This is a national shame, as Kathie Cashell said, and we can't just sweep it under the rug.
It's like the system is protecting its own, rather than serving justice. The investigation may have found evidence of wrongdoing, but retirement and death seem to be getting in the way of consequences. It's just frustrating, especially for the families of the victims. They've waited so long for answers, and now it seems like those officers are getting a free pass.
I think it's time for some real change. We need to make sure that those who abuse their power are held accountable, no matter what rank they hold. This is a national shame, as Kathie Cashell said, and we can't just sweep it under the rug.
I'm still trying to understand what a gross misconduct is... like, isn't that just a fancy way of saying they messed up big time? 
And 12 police officers retiring or dying before they can face any consequences? That's kinda weird. I mean, don't get me wrong, I feel for the victims and all, but it's like they're getting off scot-free. The Deputy Director General saying it's a source of national shame... yeah, that makes sense to me. It's like, we should be ashamed that this happened in the first place. And what's with the whole investigation thing? Is it like, a big deal now that they found out some cops were wrong? I'm still trying to wrap my head around all of it...
And 12 police officers retiring or dying before they can face any consequences? That's kinda weird. I mean, don't get me wrong, I feel for the victims and all, but it's like they're getting off scot-free. The Deputy Director General saying it's a source of national shame... yeah, that makes sense to me. It's like, we should be ashamed that this happened in the first place. And what's with the whole investigation thing? Is it like, a big deal now that they found out some cops were wrong? I'm still trying to wrap my head around all of it...man... this just makes me so sad like what even is a source of national shame when people can just retire and walk away from their mistakes? it feels like justice isn't really being served here. i mean we're still trying to come to terms with what happened at Hillsborough, but it's hard not to feel frustrated that some of the people who were involved in covering up or misrepresenting what happened are getting off scot-free. it's like they're able to escape accountability because they've hung up their uniforms and badges 
... is that really enough? shouldn't we be holding our leaders and institutions to a higher standard, especially when it comes to something as egregious as this?
like what even is a source of national shame when people can just retire and walk away from their mistakes? it feels like justice isn't really being served here. i mean we're still trying to come to terms with what happened at Hillsborough, but it's hard not to feel frustrated that some of the people who were involved in covering up or misrepresenting what happened are getting off scot-free. it's like they're able to escape accountability because they've hung up their uniforms and badges ... is that really enough? shouldn't we be holding our leaders and institutions to a higher standard, especially when it comes to something as egregious as this? this is such a sad reminder that justice can be slow and even denied to those in power. i mean, 12 police officers getting away with gross misconduct over one of the biggest tragedies in british history? it's just not right . but at least we have the iopc looking into these things, right? kathie cashell sounds like a great leader, leading that investigation to its conclusion... even if the outcome isn't what we'd hope for. ugh, my heart goes out to the families of those who lost loved ones at hillsborough 
. they deserve closure and justice, not just empty words from investigators years later 
I'm so bloody disappointed , but not surprised, to be honest! Can you imagine the families of those 96 people who lost their lives at Hillsborough having any sense of justice? I mean, these officers were found guilty of gross misconduct, but because they've all retired or kick the bucket, they get a free pass. It's just not right.
The IOPC's investigation was thorough, and Deputy Director General Kathie Cashell was right to call it a "source of national shame". It's a shameful day for British policing when you think about it. These officers might've thought they were above the law, but we're all entitled to some accountability, ain't we?
I reckon this should be a wake-up call for all of us. We need more robust investigations like this one, and we need to hold those in power accountable for their actions. No more free passes just because someone's got a pension or a nice spot in the ground!
, but not surprised, to be honest! Can you imagine the families of those 96 people who lost their lives at Hillsborough having any sense of justice? I mean, these officers were found guilty of gross misconduct, but because they've all retired or kick the bucket, they get a free pass. It's just not right.The IOPC's investigation was thorough, and Deputy Director General Kathie Cashell was right to call it a "source of national shame". It's a shameful day for British policing when you think about it. These officers might've thought they were above the law, but we're all entitled to some accountability, ain't we?
I reckon this should be a wake-up call for all of us. We need more robust investigations like this one, and we need to hold those in power accountable for their actions. No more free passes just because someone's got a pension or a nice spot in the ground!
Ugh, can't believe what's going on here ... I mean, 12 police officers get found guilty of gross misconduct over Hillsborough and not a single one gets sacked or even investigated further? That just doesn't sit right with me . And to make matters worse, they've all retired or kicked the bucket, so no chance of them facing any real consequences . The IOPC's investigation was supposed to be a serious business, but it seems like just a formality now.
I'm also annoyed that we're still hearing about this stuff years after the fact
... when are we going to get some closure on this? It's been over 30 years and it feels like no progress is being made. And what's with all these senior officers getting off scot-free? Do they think they're above the law or something? 
. This whole thing just stinks of a cover-up in my book 
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... I mean, 12 police officers get found guilty of gross misconduct over Hillsborough and not a single one gets sacked or even investigated further? That just doesn't sit right with me . And to make matters worse, they've all retired or kicked the bucket, so no chance of them facing any real consequences . The IOPC's investigation was supposed to be a serious business, but it seems like just a formality now.I'm also annoyed that we're still hearing about this stuff years after the fact
... when are we going to get some closure on this? It's been over 30 years and it feels like no progress is being made. And what's with all these senior officers getting off scot-free? Do they think they're above the law or something? . This whole thing just stinks of a cover-up in my book . This is absolutely appalling 
. I mean, 12 police officers had a case to answer for gross misconduct and you're just letting them off scot-free because they've either retired or kicked the bucket ? It's like justice isn't being served here at all.I remember the Hillsborough disaster, it was a horrific tragedy that resulted in the loss of so many innocent lives
. And to think that these officers might have been complicit in the cover-up... it's just too much to stomach 
.The IOPC's findings are indeed a source of national shame
, and it's not like they can't find any way to hold these officers accountable even if it's just a slap on the wrist . It's a shame that justice isn't being served for the families of those who lost their lives .I hope there's going to be some kind of change in how investigations are handled, so this kind of thing doesn't happen again
. The public deserves better than to feel like justice is being undermined 
.Ugh, can you believe this? 12 cops got away with some serious misconduct at Hillsborough and no one's held accountable? I mean, I know they've all retired or passed on by now, but still... it's just so frustrating. It feels like justice isn't always served, especially when it comes to these kinds of high-profile cases.
I think the fact that the IOPC found this level of misconduct is a huge deal, and Kathie Cashell saying it's "a source of national shame" is spot on. We should be ashamed that our own police force couldn't get it together enough to do their jobs properly. It's not just about the 12 cops in question, either - it's about the systemic issues that allowed this kind of thing to happen in the first place.
We need to make sure we're holding our institutions accountable and making sure these kinds of things don't happen again. It's time for some real change
I mean, I know they've all retired or passed on by now, but still... it's just so frustrating. It feels like justice isn't always served, especially when it comes to these kinds of high-profile cases.I think the fact that the IOPC found this level of misconduct is a huge deal, and Kathie Cashell saying it's "a source of national shame" is spot on. We should be ashamed that our own police force couldn't get it together enough to do their jobs properly. It's not just about the 12 cops in question, either - it's about the systemic issues that allowed this kind of thing to happen in the first place.
We need to make sure we're holding our institutions accountable and making sure these kinds of things don't happen again. It's time for some real change
Can't believe what I'm seeing ... like, what even is the point of having an IOPC if they can't even take action against these officers? It's not like they're just getting a slap on the wrist and moving on with their lives. The fact that all 12 are retired or dead is pretty suspicious, don't you think? Like, was it just a coincidence that they all happened to have retired or passed away around the time of the investigation? And what's with this "national shame" nonsense from Cashell? It's not like she can actually change anything now. The whole system is rigged, man... we're never gonna see real justice for the Hillsborough victims
... like, what even is the point of having an IOPC if they can't even take action against these officers? It's not like they're just getting a slap on the wrist and moving on with their lives. The fact that all 12 are retired or dead is pretty suspicious, don't you think? Like, was it just a coincidence that they all happened to have retired or passed away around the time of the investigation? And what's with this "national shame" nonsense from Cashell? It's not like she can actually change anything now. The whole system is rigged, man... we're never gonna see real justice for the Hillsborough victims I'm just gonna say it... 28 years after the fact, and we're still finding out that some police officers were at fault for the Hillsborough disaster . I mean, I get why they won't face disciplinary action now, considering they've all retired or passed away, but can we really call it a day? I think this whole thing is still kinda shady, you know? The fact that they got off scot-free all those years ago is a huge issue in and of itself. It's like, what was the point of even investigating if they weren't gonna take any action? 
Still, at least we're getting some answers now, and I guess it's better late than never. But seriously, can we ever really move on from this kind of thing?
. I mean, I get why they won't face disciplinary action now, considering they've all retired or passed away, but can we really call it a day? I think this whole thing is still kinda shady, you know? The fact that they got off scot-free all those years ago is a huge issue in and of itself. It's like, what was the point of even investigating if they weren't gonna take any action? Still, at least we're getting some answers now, and I guess it's better late than never. But seriously, can we ever really move on from this kind of thing?
this is so messed up... i mean what's even more sickening is that 12 officers can get away with gross misconduct and it's just a case of them being retired or having kicked the bucket . you'd think some kind of accountability, but nope. the IOPC says they found evidence of wrongdoing but it's like their own word is worthless . and to make matters worse, one of the senior officers was still on the force when the Hillsborough disaster happened, which just shows how slow-burning the justice system can be 
. kudos to Deputy Director General Kathie Cashell for speaking out, though - at least she's being honest about what's going on .Yeah, great, just what we need, another reminder that some people are above the law . I mean, 12 police officers, mostly senior, had a case to answer for gross misconduct... and not a single one will face consequences because they're all old and grey now 
. It's like the system is designed to let them off scot-free just because of their age or because they decided to hang up their badge 
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It's really disappointing that none of them will be held accountable for their actions back then. I guess it just goes to show that some people are more concerned with their own reputations than the truth and justice 
. And what really gets my goat is that they're not even facing disciplinary proceedings because... well, because they retired or died . Like, isn't that just peachy?
. I mean, 12 police officers, mostly senior, had a case to answer for gross misconduct... and not a single one will face consequences because they're all old and grey now . It's like the system is designed to let them off scot-free just because of their age or because they decided to hang up their badge .It's really disappointing that none of them will be held accountable for their actions back then
. I guess it just goes to show that some people are more concerned with their own reputations than the truth and justice . And what really gets my goat is that they're not even facing disciplinary proceedings because... well, because they retired or died . Like, isn't that just peachy?I gotta say, this is a bit messed up . On one hand, it's huge that 12 police officers are being investigated for gross misconduct related to one of the worst disasters in UK football history... I mean, can you even imagine what they must've been thinking? But on the other hand, not a single one is facing disciplinary proceedings because they're all retired or dead . Like, what's the point of even investigating if there's gonna be no consequences for those who messed up that bad? It just seems like a massive waste of time and resources... wait, but at the same time, it's also kinda good that we know what happened and can learn from it, right? I don't know, man... my mind is all over the place about this one .
. On one hand, it's huge that 12 police officers are being investigated for gross misconduct related to one of the worst disasters in UK football history... I mean, can you even imagine what they must've been thinking? But on the other hand, not a single one is facing disciplinary proceedings because they're all retired or dead . Like, what's the point of even investigating if there's gonna be no consequences for those who messed up that bad? It just seems like a massive waste of time and resources... wait, but at the same time, it's also kinda good that we know what happened and can learn from it, right? I don't know, man... my mind is all over the place about this one .