Is David Lammy persuaded by his own jury trials proposal? Not sure. But he said it anyway | John Crace

David Lammy's recent proposal to curb the right to trial by jury has left many questioning whether he is genuinely committed to reform or simply looking for ways to advance his own agenda. As foreign secretary, Lammy was widely regarded as a rising star within the Labour party, with a reputation for being tough on crime and passionate about social justice.

However, his appointment as justice secretary has seen him take a drastic shift in tone, embracing measures that were once anathema to him. The proposal to introduce judge-only trials for certain cases is particularly egregious, given Lammy's well-documented opposition to the idea just months ago. It seems that the lure of power and control has won out over his earlier principles.

Underpinning this shift in stance is a deeply flawed understanding of how the justice system works. Lammy has consistently failed to acknowledge the root causes of the court backlog, which is largely due to inadequate funding and resources. Instead, he has opted for short-sighted sticking plaster solutions that will merely delay the inevitable collapse of the system.

The argument that judges are somehow more impartial than jurors is also a dubious one. Magistrates, who are often drawn from the same communities as jurors, can bring a level of local knowledge and understanding that can be just as valuable. Judges, on the other hand, are often isolated figures who have little connection to the people they preside over.

Lammy's own reasoning for supporting these reforms is equally flimsy. He cites the principle of "justice delayed is justice denied," but this ignores the fact that many defendants are already unable to access a fair trial due to lack of resources, lack of representation, or other systemic issues.

The real tragedy here is that Lammy's proposals have been seized upon by Conservative backbenchers as a way to score points against his own party. Robert Jenrick's condescending tone and his attempts to appear sympathetic to the plight of defendants ring hollow, given his earlier stance on summary justice for asylum seekers.

Even within Lammy's own party, there is growing unease about his proposals. Diane Abbott has rightly pointed out that judge-only trials will only serve to increase miscarriages of justice, while Richard Burgon has highlighted the risks of politicizing the judiciary.

Ultimately, it seems that David Lammy is being offered a lifeline by his colleagues โ€“ a temporary reprieve from implementing these reforms until the system is somehow magically sorted out. But this is little more than a Band-Aid solution, and it will only serve to further erode public trust in an already beleaguered justice system.

It's time for Lammy to return to his roots as a champion of social justice, rather than peddling superficial reforms that will do nothing to address the real issues facing our courts. The right to trial by jury is not something to be taken lightly, and it requires thoughtful consideration and genuine commitment to reform โ€“ rather than desperate attempts to cling to power.
 
๐Ÿ˜” I'm really disappointed in what's going on with David Lammy's proposal ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. It seems like he's just trying to push his own agenda instead of really working towards justice ๐Ÿšซ. The thing is, judges and magistrates aren't so different, you know? Both have their own biases and experiences that can impact their decisions ๐Ÿ’ญ.

I also don't get why we're ignoring the root causes of our court backlog โฐ. It's all about funding and resources, but Lammy's just proposing sticking plaster solutions ๐Ÿค•. And what about people who genuinely can't access a fair trial? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

It's like he's being used by his own party to score points, and now they're just trying to save face ๐Ÿ˜’. I wish Lammy would get back to his roots and really focus on making justice better for everyone ๐ŸŒˆ. The right to trial by jury is a big deal, and it deserves thoughtful consideration ๐Ÿ’ก. We need someone who's going to genuinely work towards reform, not just cling to power ๐Ÿ‘Š
 
๐Ÿค” I'm really worried about this one, mate. It seems like David Lammy's lost sight of what's important - social justice for all. He used to be all about giving people a fair shot, but now it feels like he's just trying to control the narrative. Like, introducing judge-only trials? That's not reforming the system, that's just making it more biased and unfair. ๐Ÿšซ And what really gets me is that he's ignoring the root causes of the court backlog - funding and resources are the real issues here, not some fancy-pants judges-only solution. ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ It's time for Lammy to get back on track and focus on making things better, not just for himself but for everyone. ๐Ÿ’ช
 
I'm getting so tired of politicians like Lammy who seem more interested in advancing their own careers than doing what's actually best for the justice system ๐Ÿคฏ. It's like they think we're all just blind followers who won't question their motives.

And another thing, have you seen the way he's trying to spin this whole judge-only trial thing? "Justice delayed is justice denied" - yeah, but what about the people who are already stuck in a system that's broken because of inadequate funding and resources? ๐Ÿค‘ It's like Lammy thinks we're all just going to magically forget about those systemic issues if he throws some fancy words at us.

And let's not even get started on how he's trying to use this as a way to score points against his own party. Like, hello, if you can't trust your own colleagues to have your back then maybe you shouldn't be in politics ๐Ÿ™„. And what really grinds my gears is that his own party members are starting to speak out against him - Diane Abbott and Richard Burgon being two of the few who seem to actually care about doing what's right.

It's time for politicians like Lammy to take a step back and remember why they got into politics in the first place: to make a difference, not just to further their own careers ๐Ÿ’”.
 
๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ I'm so worried about David Lammy's proposal on judge-only trials ๐Ÿค•. He seems to have lost sight of what's really important here ๐Ÿ’”. It's all about addressing the root causes of the court backlog, like inadequate funding and resources ๐Ÿ“Š. Instead, he's offering short-sighted solutions that will only delay the problem ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ.

And let's not forget that jurors can bring a level of local knowledge and understanding to cases ๐Ÿค. Judges might be impartial on paper, but they're often isolated figures who don't really get what's going on in their communities ๐ŸŒŽ.

Lammy's proposal is being used by his own party colleagues as a way to score points against him ๐Ÿ˜’. It's not about real reform; it's about clinging to power ๐Ÿ‘Š. We need someone who's genuinely committed to social justice, not just looking for ways to advance their own agenda ๐Ÿ’ผ.

This whole thing is a tragedy ๐ŸŒช๏ธ. The public trust in the justice system is already so low โš–๏ธ. We need real change, not superficial fixes that will do nothing to address the real issues ๐Ÿ‘Ž. Let's hope Lammy gets back on track and starts listening to the people who really matter ๐Ÿ’•.
 
๐Ÿ˜’ I'm so done with David Lammy's U-turn on the right to trial by jury ๐Ÿคฏ Like, what changed his mind? He used to be all about social justice, now he's just trying to advance his own agenda ๐Ÿค‘. And let's be real, judge-only trials are a recipe for disaster ๐Ÿšซ. Who do they think is more impartial, judges or magistrates who actually know the community they're dealing with? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ It's all about short-sighted solutions that'll just delay the inevitable collapse of our justice system ๐Ÿ’”.

And don't even get me started on Robert Jenrick's condescending tone ๐Ÿ˜’. Like, come on, man! The guy who thinks summary justice for asylum seekers is a good idea? ๐Ÿ™„ No thanks. This is all about scoring points with his own party, not actually making things better for the community ๐Ÿคฅ. I hope someone from within Lammy's party steps up and calls him out on this ๐Ÿ’ช. We need real reform, not just a Band-Aid solution that'll only erode public trust even more ๐Ÿ˜ฉ
 
I'm soooo fed up with David Lammy's sudden change of heart on this one ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. He was supposed to be all about social justice and standing up for the people, but now he's just trying to advance his own career and silence anyone who disagrees with him ๐Ÿ’”. And let's be real, his proposal is a total non-starter - judge-only trials are just another way for the powers that be to control the narrative and ignore the root causes of the problem ๐Ÿค.

I mean, come on, David, you used to talk about reforming the justice system from the bottom up, but now it's all about sticking plaster solutions and ignoring the systemic issues that are actually causing the problems ๐Ÿ’ธ. And don't even get me started on his reasoning - "justice delayed is justice denied" sounds like a cop-out to me ๐Ÿค”.

The thing that really gets my goat is that his party colleagues are more worried about scoring points against him than actual reforming of the system ๐Ÿ™„. Diane Abbott and Richard Burgon are spot on in saying that this will only lead to more miscarriages of justice, and I'm like "duh" - who doesn't know that already? ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

Anyway, I just think David Lammy needs to get back to basics and remember why he got into politics in the first place: to make a difference for people, not just himself ๐Ÿ™.
 
๐Ÿค” what's going on with David Lammy rn? he was like this big shot in the Labour party, then suddenly his stance changes & now he's proposing measures that were once a no-go ๐Ÿšซ it feels like power & control have won out over what's best for reform.

the thing is, judge-only trials aren't even addressing the root of the problem โ€“ funding & resources ๐Ÿค‘ lammy knows this but instead of tackling it head-on, he's just trying to stick plaster solutions that'll delay the inevitable. and let's be real, magistrates from local communities can bring a level of understanding & connection that judges just can't match ๐Ÿ‘ฅ

it's all getting so politicized now ๐Ÿ˜’ robert jenrick thinks he's scoring points against lammy but really he's just looking daft ๐Ÿ™„ & within the Labour party, people like Diane abbott are right to say that these reforms will only increase miscarriages of justice. ๐Ÿ’”
 
I'm so done with David Lammy's flip-flop on this whole trial by jury thing ๐Ÿคฏ! He's supposed to be a social justice warrior, but now he's just pushing some watered-down, soulless reforms that don't even address the root causes of the problem. The fact that judges are often isolated and disconnected from the communities they're meant to serve is a total non-starter โ€“ magistrates get it! ๐Ÿ™„

And what really gets my goat is how everyone's just using this as an excuse to score points against their own party. Like, can't we have a real conversation about reforming the justice system instead of playing politics? ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ Lammy needs to go back to basics and remember why he got into politics in the first place โ€“ to make a difference for people's lives, not just to cling to power. ๐Ÿ’”
 
idk why people are so quick to defend lammy's proposal ๐Ÿค” i mean have you seen the stats on the court backlog? its a joke! he's just trying to cover up his own failures as foreign secretary ๐Ÿ‘€ and now hes trying to pawn off his reforms on us without even acknowledging the root causes of the problem. thats not reform, thats just more of the same old sticking plaster solutions ๐Ÿคฎ

and dont even get me started on the argument that judges are more impartial than jurors ๐Ÿ™„ magistrates are often from the same communities as jurors and have a level of local knowledge that can be super valuable too! its all about who you trust in the system, fam ๐Ÿ‘Š and lammys proposal just seems like a way to consolidate power in the hands of judges.

i mean come on lammy, return to your roots ๐Ÿ”„ we need someone who is genuinely committed to reforming the justice system, not just looking for ways to advance their own agenda ๐Ÿ˜’
 
I think Lammy's about face on the trial by jury is fishy ๐ŸŸ๐Ÿ˜’... he was always pro-justice for all, but now it seems like he just wants to flex his muscles ๐Ÿ’ช as justice secretary. The funding issue should be the real focus, not these half-baked reform ideas ๐Ÿคฏ. Judges and jurors aren't mutually exclusive, you can have a good mix of both ๐Ÿค... and what's with this "justice delayed is justice denied" nonsense? ๐Ÿ™„ that's just a cop-out for those who don't want to tackle the root problems.

And btw, how convenient that Con backbenchers are pouncing on Lammy's proposals ๐ŸŽ‰... it just shows they're desperate to undermine his party's credibility ๐Ÿ˜…. But we should be looking at ourselves, not just pointing fingers ๐Ÿ‘Š
 
๐Ÿค” lammy's shift in tone is sus... used to think he was all about justice now it feels like he's just trying to fit in with the establishment ๐Ÿšซ judge-only trials? that's just a copout solution ๐Ÿ™„ and what's with the funding? lammy's all about short-term fixes ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ instead of addressing the root causes ๐Ÿ‘€
 
omg i totally agree with diane abbott on this one ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ lammy's proposal is a total cop out and is just gonna make things worse in the long run. he needs to take responsibility for fixing the court backlog instead of trying to sweep it under the rug. and honestly, judges aren't always more impartial than jurors - magistrates can bring so much valuable local knowledge to the table ๐Ÿค

and what's with the "justice delayed is justice denied" line? that's just a cop out for not addressing the root causes of the problem ๐Ÿ’” lammy needs to get back to his roots and fight for real social justice instead of trying to appease conservatives. this whole thing is just a total mess ๐Ÿคฏ
 
I'm reading all about this David Lammy guy trying to change the justice system and I gotta say ๐Ÿค”... it's like he's lost sight of what's really important here. He used to be a pro for trial by jury but now it seems like just another way for him to get ahead ๐Ÿค‘. And honestly, I don't think judge-only trials are gonna solve anything. Our courts already struggle with funding and resources, so why not fix those problems instead of trying to stick plaster over the cracks?

I'm also a bit confused about this "justice delayed is justice denied" thing... isn't that just a fancy way of saying "we don't have enough people to try everyone's cases quickly enough"? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ Anyway, it seems like Lammy's proposal is all about control and not really about fixing the system. That's really disappointing because I used to think he was someone who cared about social justice.

It's weird that his own party is distancing themselves from him over this... Diane Abbott makes some valid points about miscarriages of justice ๐Ÿค•. And I agree with Richard Burgon, judges aren't always impartial and sometimes you need people from the community who actually understand what's going on.

I just wish Lammy would take a step back and think about why he made those proposals in the first place... did he really believe they'd work or was it just another way to advance his own career? ๐Ÿค”
 
I'm not sure I trust David Lammy's sudden change of heart on this one ๐Ÿค”. He went from being a vocal advocate for social justice to now pushing for measures that seem to be more about control than actual reform. And let's be real, his reasoning is pretty weak ๐Ÿ™„. The argument that judges are more impartial than jurors just doesn't hold water. And what about the fact that Lammy's own party is already freaking out about this? It seems like he's being forced into a corner by his colleagues rather than genuinely trying to make things better. The right to trial by jury is an important one, and we need someone who's actually going to fight for it, not just use it as a way to advance their own agenda ๐Ÿšซ. Can we get some sources on this, though? I want to see where Lammy got his idea from ๐Ÿ’ก
 
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