Not OK? Booker winner Flesh ignites debate about state of masculinity

Booker Winner Sparks Debate on State of Masculinity

David Szalay's Booker prize-winning novel Flesh has reignited the debate about masculinity in literature. The book's protagonist, István, a working-class man from eastern Europe, embodies toxic male behavior, which has sparked controversy among readers and critics alike.

The novel's sparse prose style and István's repetitive utterance of "OK" have drawn attention to the lack of insight into his inner workings. However, it is precisely this portrayal that has led some to question whether novels about men are still relevant in today's literary landscape.

The winner of the Booker prize, a prestigious award for literature, has been seen as a counterpoint to the notion that male writers and themes are no longer fashionable. In fact, the novel's success has sparked a wider debate about masculinity, with some critics arguing that it taps into the "crisis of masculinity" characterized by rising concerns over toxic male behavior.

According to Chris Power, one of the Booker judges, István's struggles with status anxiety and financial precarity are universal feelings felt by many young people today. The novel, however, has been criticized for its portrayal of toxic masculinity, which some see as perpetuating negative stereotypes about men.

The emergence of a new imprint, Conduit Books, aimed at publishing literary fiction and memoirs by men, suggests that there is a growing recognition of the need to challenge traditional notions of masculinity in literature. However, the success of Flesh has also raised questions about whether novels about men are still relevant in today's literary landscape.

As one critic noted, "The idea of a crisis of masculinity in the wider culture... it's almost colliding with literature." The debate surrounding Flesh serves as a reminder that literature continues to reflect and shape our understanding of the world around us.
 
I think its kinda weird how some ppl are getting all worked up about a book that's just tryna show a realistic portrayal of a dude struggling with life 🤷‍♂️. I mean, toxic masculinity is a real thing, but can't we be critical without demonizing the guy who wrote it? David Szalay's not trying to perpetuate anything negative, he's just tryin' to tell an honest story about his character... and sometimes that means showin' the ugly stuff too 😔. We need more books like Flesh, imo, even if they make us uncomfortable 📚.
 
I gotta say, I'm kinda torn about this whole booker winner thing. On one hand, I love how David Szalay is pushing boundaries with his writing style and tackling tough topics like toxic masculinity. But on the other hand, I don't know if I agree that we need more books about guys being bros and struggling with their emotions 🤔.

I mean, have you seen the state of our society lately? We're all just trying to figure out how to be decent human beings in a world that's increasingly crazy 💥. I think it's time for literature to reflect that, not just focus on one particular aspect of being male. And yeah, I know some people will say that's a cop-out, but honestly, I'm kinda with them 😊.

It's also got me thinking - what's the point of writing about masculinity if we're just gonna perpetuate negative stereotypes? Can't we do better than that? 🤷‍♂️ Anyway, that's my two cents. What do you guys think? Should we be reading more books about men being vulnerable and emotional? 📖
 
I'm not sure about this whole booker winner thing 🤔. I mean, don't get me wrong, Flesh is a good read and all but I think it's because we're so used to seeing novels written from female perspectives that anything by a male author gets thrown into the spotlight now. And yeah, the guy in the book can be kinda creepy 😒, but that's just one aspect of him. It's like we're putting too much pressure on books about men to solve all our problems with masculinity. I'm not saying they should avoid it or anything, but maybe we need more nuance in our literary criticism 🤷‍♂️.
 
Ugh this is so frustrating 🤯 I mean who needs another book about toxic masculinity? It feels like every time you turn around there's another one coming out and all it does is perpetuate the problem 😒 I just want to read a decent love story or something without having to analyze the author's "subtle" critique of patriarchal society 🙄 And what's with the Booker award being seen as some kind of counterpoint? Like, can't they just celebrate good writing for once? 📚 Anyway, I do think it's interesting that there's a growing recognition of the need to challenge traditional notions of masculinity in literature. Maybe we'll finally get some fresh perspectives on the subject... or maybe not 😒
 
😬 I'm telling you, this whole debate about masculinity in literature is just a reflection of the bigger issue at hand – the lack of representation in the literary world 📚. David Szalay's novel may have sparked controversy, but what's really being talked about here is how men are still being written out of the narrative (pun intended). The emergence of Conduit Books might be seen as a response to this imbalance, but it also raises questions about why we need a separate imprint for men's writing in the first place 🤔. Is it because men just aren't contributing enough to the literary scene? Or is it because our expectations around what constitutes "great" literature are still tied to traditional notions of masculinity? 📊 This whole thing feels like a classic case of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole – but maybe that's exactly what we need. 💡
 
awww man i feel you 🤗 this whole thing is so messy but i think we need more books like flesh that tackle the hard stuff about men and masculinity it's not easy to write about, but it's necessary for some real change to happen 💖 maybe the fact that people are having these kinds of conversations means that we're slowly moving towards a better understanding of what it means to be male and how that affects us all 🤝
 
OMG, this whole thing about David Szalay's book being super sparse and having that annoying "OK" thing going on is kinda wild 🤯. But what I'm really thinking is, why are we still so divided on this? Like, can't we just have a nuanced discussion about masculinity in literature without it turning into a whole thing? And btw, the emergence of Conduit Books sounds like a total game-changer for publishing more diverse perspectives, which is SO needed 💪.
 
I think some people might be saying that this book is just too real for its own good 🤯, like, István's struggles with masculinity are something we all can relate to or whatever 😒. I'm not sure if it's a good thing that there's more discussion about toxic male behavior in literature tho 💬, but maybe it'll help guys think differently about what it means to be a man 🤔.
 
just read about david szalay's booker winder & i'm already thinking about all the other books that are gonna get lost in the 'crisis of masculinity' conversation 🤯📚 meanwhile, have you heard about the new climate change report? sea levels are predicted to rise by 1.1 meters by 2100, which is like, super devastating for coastal cities 🌊😬
 
aww man 🤕 this whole thing got me thinking about how much we need to talk about toxic masculinity like what even is that? 🤔 it's so exhausting to be expected to conform to these societal norms of being "tough" and not showing emotions... can't we just have men express themselves freely too? 🌈 maybe the Booker winner isn't a problem, maybe it's just an opportunity for us to have a convo about what masculinity even means to us. 💬
 
Omg I'm like totally shook by this whole thing 🤯 ...I mean, David Szalay's book is literally so real about what it means to be a man in today's society...I've been there too tbh, struggling with financial stuff and feeling like you're not good enough, but at least István is honest about how he feels, right? 💔 And yeah, the Booker prize win is kinda mind-blowing...I mean, who wouldn't want to read a book that's so raw and unfiltered?

But like, I get why some people are saying it's perpetuating negative stereotypes, because let's be real, toxic masculinity is super prevalent right now 🤯 And I'm not gonna lie, I've definitely had my share of toxic moments too...but at the same time, I think we need more books like this that tackle these issues head-on.

And omg have you guys heard about Conduit Books? They're literally changing the game by publishing literary fiction and memoirs by men 📚💪 It's so cool to see a new imprint coming in and shaking things up...I'm definitely gonna be keeping an eye on them! 😊
 
omg u guys i just finished reading flesh by david szalay and i'm still reeling from the experience 🤯 like is this really how men are supposed to be? all this talk about toxic masculinity and status anxiety and i'm over here thinking if only my dad had read something like this when he was younger lol anyway, i think it's so cool that there's a growing recognition of the need to challenge traditional notions of masculinity in literature 📚👍
 
man i was just thinking about what my favorite food to order when i'm feeling lazy is... pizza, you know? like, can't go wrong with a good ol' fashioned pepperoni pie 🍕 anyway, back to this book, flesh or whatever, i mean, i love how the author wrote it so sparse and stuff, feels kinda like me when i'm trying to write but just can't get anything down on paper 😂 and yeah, i see what you mean about istván's character being pretty toxic, but at the same time, it's like, that's just how some people are, right? 🤷‍♂️ but anyway, have you guys tried that new coffee shop downtown? i heard their coffee is, like, actually good for once 💡
 
I think its pretty crazy how one book can spark such a big conversation about what it means to be a man 🤯. I mean, we're living in a time where people are rethinking what traditional masculinity looks like, and that's a good thing 💪. But at the same time, we also gotta acknowledge that there's still a lot of work to be done to break down toxic stereotypes about men. Its not just about books, though - its about how we treat each other in our daily lives, how we talk to our kids about what it means to be a man, and how we support guys who are struggling with their own identity issues 🤝. Ultimately, I think the debate around Flesh is a good thing because it's making us ask some tough questions and challenge ourselves to be better versions of ourselves 💬.
 
I'm thinking that David Szalay's win has got everyone riled up about what it means for men in lit 🤔. Some folks are saying that books about men just aren't relevant anymore, but I don't think that's entirely true. I mean, we're living in a time where the whole toxic masculinity thing is getting a lot of attention – and isn't it exactly this stuff that novels like Flesh are tackling?

I guess what gets me is how some people seem to be saying that writing about men's problems just perpetuates negative stereotypes 🙄. But I think that's a pretty narrow view, you know? Books like Flesh can also be seen as explorations of the human condition – whether that's through István's struggles or whatever else. The thing is, we don't really talk about these things enough in lit, so maybe some controversy is what we need to keep the conversation going 💬.

What's also got me thinking is how this whole debate might be connected to the rise of this new imprint, Conduit Books – which aims to publish more literary fiction and memoirs by men. That's a good thing, right? More voices getting out there? But it's like, if we're not talking about these issues in lit then who are we talking to? It's almost like the whole industry is just one big echo chamber 🗣️.

Anyway, I guess what I'm saying is that all this fuss over Flesh has got me thinking – are books about men still relevant? And do they need to be? Or should we be looking for more nuanced stuff? Not sure yet 🤷‍♀️.
 
omg u think david szalay's book is like super relevant? i mean, i got it, the guy's got skills w/ his sparse prose style but come on, istván's just so... toxic lol @ critics who say he reps "crisis of masculinity" tho, idk if thats a thing or not. some ppl r all like "men in literature are so overrated" & i'm like "nope, not yet" we need more nuance, less stereotypes 🤷‍♂️
 
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