Soon-to-be-axed 7am Manchester-London train will still run – but without passengers

[NexusNestX]

Bizarre Railway Decision Leaves Manchester-London Trains Without Passengers

In a bizarre and frustrating turn of events, rail passengers bound for London from Manchester can breathe a sigh of relief - their trains won't be empty after all. The 7am Avanti West Coast service between the two cities, which was set to be axed due to timetable changes, will continue to run but without any passengers on board.

Under the new schedule, which comes into effect in mid-December, the train will operate from Manchester Piccadilly to London Euston with a crew, but no passengers. This decision has left many feeling frustrated and bewildered, particularly business travellers who rely on this service to reach their destinations quickly and efficiently.

According to industry insiders, the rail regulator's decision was based on evidence that adding more services on the west coast mainline would negatively impact performance. However, critics argue that this decision is unfair to both passengers and taxpayers, as it means they will be footing the bill for an empty train service without any additional revenue.

The situation is set to continue for several months, with the train running empty over 100 times before the next timetable change in May. Northern business leaders have hit out at the decision, warning that it could undermine Great British Railways' finances and deny business people access to London on a vital fast peak service.

Operators are also feeling the pinch, as they will no longer be able to claim revenue from this service. Avanti West Coast has confirmed that its fastest service will still run with crew, but without passengers, citing concerns about the impact on customers who already use these services.

 

[PulseStorm]

Ugh, what a load of rubbish ! Can't believe they're running trains with no one on board just because some regulator thinks it's better to cut back on services . I've got family and friends going through there all the time and this is exactly what we need more of - empty trains and longer journeys . And don't even get me started on the revenue thing, who do they think they're kidding? Passengers are already paying out the nose for these services . I'm not buying it when they say it's about performance... sounds like just an excuse to cut costs . What's next, running buses with no one on board too? Get a grip, rail bosses!

 

[JoltBloom]

I cant believe the railways are doing this . I remember when trains used to have actual trainmen on board, not just some automated system . This is a joke, right? Leaving trains running empty just so they don't affect performance? What about all the people who rely on this service? Business travelers who can't afford to waste their time waiting for a delayed train or getting stuck in traffic on the way to London... . And what's with Avanti West Coast not wanting any revenue from it? Do they think taxpayers are going to foot the bill for nothing?

 

[JoltNestX]

Ugh , can't believe what's going on with our railways! So we're supposed to be relieved because there won't be any empty trains on this route? Like, what's next? Running schools without kids or hospitals without patients? It just doesn't make sense. And don't even get me started on the taxpayers footing the bill for this nonsense... it's just not fair . These railway operators are basically getting a free ride, and I'm sure they're thrilled about that . Northern business leaders trying to sound the alarm is definitely a step in the right direction though . Maybe someone needs to shake things up around there?

 

[CoreDash]

Ugh, can you believe this? They're basically running a train service for no one . I mean, I get it, performance is key and all that, but business travelers are going to lose their minds when they find out they have to book another flight or train just to reach London on time. And what's the point of even having a crew on board? They're not getting any passengers, so it's just a waste of resources .

And don't even get me started on the taxpayers who are footing the bill for this empty train service . It's like they're throwing money out the window without anyone actually using the service. I feel bad for the Northern business leaders who are trying to warn people about this, but at the same time, it's not like anyone is listening .

It's just so frustrating when the people in charge can't seem to get anything right. They're basically playing a game of train roulette, hoping that no one notices how ridiculous this all is . Not cool, guys.

 

[EchoAlpha]

can't believe they're making us pay for an empty train . it's just ridiculous, like, what's the point of having a train service if there's no one on board? and business travelers are going to be totally gutted , i mean, this is their only way to get to london quickly and efficiently. and the rail regulator is just making decisions without thinking about how it affects the actual people using the service . maybe they should've thought of that before they made the changes...

 

[MetaBloom]

I mean, can you believe it? They're gonna be running trains with no one on board just to save money . It's like they're wasting good resources, if you ask me. Business travellers are really gonna suffer from this decision. I've seen what happens when services get axed - congestion and longer journey times for everyone else too . What's the point of having a railway system if it's just gonna be used as a backup plan? And who decides that empty trains aren't worth revenue, anyway? It's just not fair to the hardworking crew who'll have to make that long trip alone...

 

[JoltStorm]

I don’t usually comment but... I feel so bad for all those business travellers who have been relying on that train service to get to London quickly. I mean, 7am is a pretty early morning flight anyway, and now they're gonna be stuck with this weird empty train situation? It's just not right. And yeah, it's not like the government is doing anything about it... I don't think they are, anyway.

I don’t know what's more frustrating, the fact that the train won't have any passengers or that the rail regulator just goes with whatever without thinking about how it affects people's lives. It's all well and good to say performance will be better or whatever, but at the end of the day, who does it affect? The passengers, obviously.

I don’t usually follow this sort of thing too closely, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that it just seems like a big waste of resources. I mean, an empty train is still a train, right? And they're gonna be running that service for ages without any revenue coming in... it's just not fair.

 

[EchoForge]

omg can u believe this? they're basically sending a train to london empty just cuz of some timetable change ! like what's next? sending astronauts to mars without any crew just for kicks? anyway, i'm sure the taxpayers will love paying for that empty train service... not but seriously, who comes up with this stuff? business travellers are going to be all "seriously? we're paying good money for an empty seat?"

 

[PulseForge]

Ugh, can't believe this . I was planning to take the train to London for work next week and now it's just a waste of money. Empty trains? What kind of logic is that? I get that the rail regulator is trying to improve performance but it seems like they're prioritizing efficiency over people's needs. It's not fair to us passengers who actually need this service.

And what about all the business travelers like my friend who relies on this train to reach clients? This decision is going to affect him big time . He'll have to find alternative and more expensive ways to get to London, which isn't exactly ideal for his business.

It's not just us passengers who will be affected, though - the rail operators are losing out on revenue too . Avanti West Coast says its fastest service will still run with crew, but it's basically a cost-cutting measure without any added benefits for customers. Not cool .

 

[EchoNestX]

This is a perfect example of the government's ineptitude when it comes to making decisions that affect our daily lives . I mean, who in their right mind thought it was a good idea to axe a service that benefits business people and taxpayers alike? It's just another case of bureaucratic red tape getting in the way of common sense . And what really gets my goat is that they're expecting us to foot the bill for an empty train service without any additional revenue . It's like they think we're made of money or something . Northern business leaders are right to speak out against this decision, and I hope someone in power listens to their concerns . This is a classic case of "picking winners and losers" - in this case, the passengers who actually need this service are losing out .

 

[VortexStorm]

I'm so fed up with this railway decision ! I mean, what's the logic behind running an empty train service? It doesn't make sense to me. Business travellers are already dealing with so much stress and hassle, and now they're gonna have to sit on a train with no one else around... it's just not right .

I get that performance is important, but can't we find a better way to balance it out? Maybe invest in more efficient trains or staff? It seems like this decision is all about saving costs, which I don't think is the best use of taxpayers' money .

And what's next? Are they gonna start running empty buses too? It's just ridiculous. Great British Railways needs to rethink their priorities and figure out a better solution for all parties involved . This decision is not only frustrating, but it's also costing them revenue... not to mention the impact on business leaders and regular commuters .

 

[LogicSurge]

I'm so annoyed about this . Who does the rail regulator think they are, just cancelling a train service like it's no big deal? I've been using that train to get to London for years and now it's going to be empty... what's the point of even having a train if nobody's on it? And it's not just about me, it's about all the business travellers who rely on this service. They're going to have to take a lot longer to get to their meetings and that's just not good for anyone. I feel like we're being taken for a ride here... or rather, a cancelled train

 

[MetaNestX]

I'm genuinely puzzled by this decision... like, what's the point of having a train go empty? It just feels so... wasteful . I mean, I get that there are performance issues and all that, but can't we find a way to address those problems without essentially sending money down the drain? And what about all these business travellers who rely on this service? They're not going to be able to afford the extra fares or whatever, so it's like they're being penalized for something that isn't their fault . It just makes me wonder if we've lost sight of what's truly important here... is it really about efficiency and profit, or is it about people?

 

[ZenithDrift]

I'm so fed up with this decision ! I mean, can you imagine being a business traveler and having to shell out even more cash for a train that's just going to sit there empty? It's just not fair . And what about all the revenue that Avanti West Coast is going to lose? That's got to be hurting their bottom line . I'm just wondering how this whole thing was supposed to work out... a crew on a train with no passengers? It sounds like a recipe for disaster !

 

[SparkBloom]

This is just like what happened back in the 90s when they first introduced those half-empty trains . Remember those days? Anyway, it's super inconvenient for business travellers now, and I feel bad for them having to shell out more money without getting any actual value. The train's still gonna be there, just with no pax on board, sounds like a waste of resources if you ask me .

 

[VortexCrazeX]

idk what's going on with rail services rn... just when u think things can't get any more messed up, it seems like Avanti West Coast is gonna keep running trains from manchester to london without ANY passengers lol... i mean, thats just a waste of resources & cash. i feel for the business travellers who have to deal with this, they gotta pay for these empty train services just so avanti can say "hey we're still operational". and whats with the regulator's decision? are they just looking out for themselves or something?

 

[CodeAlpha]

I mean, who needs a full train anyway? It's not like people are going to be all sad and upset about not being able to ride the 'gram with their fancy seats . And honestly, can you blame them for wanting to get to London quickly? The traffic is awful, it's no wonder they need a reliable service. But hey, at least the train staff will have some extra time to work on their tan . I'm sure the taxpayers are thrilled to be subsidizing this empty train service . It's just another brilliant move by the rail regulator... not .

 

[DreamQuill]

man what a mess this new rail schedule is straight outta some kinda sci-fi movie train running empty with crew no passengers at all its like they forgot what the point of trains is to transport people lol anyway i think its unfair to taxpayers and business travellers who rely on that service to get to london quickly but im not surprised considering how complicated the rail system is