The shameful attacks on the Covid inquiry prove it: the right is lost in anti-science delusion | Polly Toynbee

The UK's Covid Inquiry has been met with vicious attacks from the right-wing media and politicians. The criticism is not just about one person, Boris Johnson, but about his entire coterie of libertarians who reject lifesaving measures as "toxic" and "chaotic". This anti-science delusion is a symptom of a deeper problem - a rejection of government regulation and public protection.

The history of the right-wing media's approach to science and health is well-documented. The Sunday Times' promotion of the gay plague theory in the 1980s, for example, was a grotesque display of ideology over human life. Today, lockdown sceptics like Toby Young and Daniel Hannan are using their platforms to attack the inquiry's statistics and reasoning.

The debate around Covid has always been polarized, but it's essential to examine the evidence and weigh the costs of different policy options. The question of whether lockdowns saved lives is complex and depends on various factors, including age demographics, socioeconomic status, and access to healthcare.

While some argue that lockdowns were unnecessary or even counterproductive, others point out that the UK's approach was woefully inadequate, with devastating consequences for many vulnerable individuals. The 23,000 deaths attributed to Covid are a stark reminder of the human cost of this pandemic.

The inquiry's chairman, Heather Hallett, is under fire from lockdown sceptics who claim that the report's findings are "hopelessly incoherent". But the real question at stake is not just about the accuracy of the statistics but about the values we place on public health and safety. Should we prioritize individual freedoms over collective well-being? Should we be willing to take calculated risks with our lives to avoid lockdowns, even if it means more deaths?

As the UK moves forward, it's crucial that we engage in a nuanced debate about these trade-offs. The future of our healthcare system, social services, and public safety hangs in the balance. We need to listen to expert opinions, weigh the evidence, and consider the long-term consequences of our choices. Anything less would be irresponsible and reckless.

The far-right's relentless attacks on science and reason are a symptom of a deeper rot in our society - a rot that threatens to erode our values and undermine our democratic institutions. We must stand firm against this delusion and defend our right to facts, evidence-based decision-making, and public protection. The fate of our nation depends on it.
 
I'm so fed up with the way the media is treating this Covid Inquiry πŸ™„. It's not just about Boris Johnson or a few politicians, it's about the whole ideology that's being pushed by these right-wing media outlets and politicians. They're still spouting their conspiracy theories and claiming lockdowns were "toxic" and "chaotic". Like, what even is wrong with people? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ We've lost 23,000 lives to this pandemic and they're still fighting about the details of how we can prevent future ones. It's just crazy. I think the real problem here is that some people are more interested in promoting their own agendas than in actually helping others. And if you ask me, lockdowns might not have been 100% perfect, but at least they saved lives. We need to get past this partisan nonsense and focus on what really matters – keeping our communities safe and healthy πŸ’―.
 
ugh, i'm so tired of the toxic debate going on around covid 🀯... like, can't we just agree that the lockdowns were a mixed bag and let's focus on moving forward? πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ some ppl are being super unreasonable about the whole thing, saying it was "toxic" and "chaotic", but what they're really mad at is the government regulation πŸ€”... newsflash: science isn't always a clear-cut issue! πŸ“Š we need to acknowledge that different people have different ages, health conditions, and access to healthcare, so the effectiveness of lockdowns varied βš•οΈ... instead of attacking each other online, let's try to find common ground and have a calm conversation about how to improve our public health system πŸ‘
 
πŸ™„ the whole thing is just a distraction from the real issues at hand - like how they're gonna pay off the debt we incurred from covid or what's next for the NHS... all this lockdown debate is just a sideshow πŸŽͺ
 
ugh lockdown sceptics r so annoying πŸ™„ i was in year 11 when covid hit & it was literally the worst time ever my school went into lockdown 2x & i had to do online exams bc of it lol but seriously tho, it's not just about individual freedoms vs collective well-being, it's also about who gets to decide what's "toxic" or "chaotic" πŸ€” like, what even is the definition of that?! shouldn't we be focusing on getting vaccines out to everyone ASAP & making sure our hospitals are equipped 2 deal with patients?
 
lol what's going on over there its been ages since I saw the original thread I was literally in my pajamas when it went dead 🀣 anyway imo the whole lockdown debate is super messy theres no clear winner but what i do think is that we need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture its not just about individual freedoms vs collective well-being, its also about how our societies are structured and who's really affected by these decisions aka whats going on with the NHS and universal healthcare?
 
I'm getting the feels thinking about how much I miss the good ol' days when we used to take things at face value πŸ€”. Nowadays, it seems like everyone's an expert on everything, including science and health 🧬. Remember when Boris Johnson was still a relatively new MP? πŸ˜‚ He didn't have all these ideologies weighing him down, if you know what I mean.

I'm not sure why people can't just accept that lockdowns did happen and they might've saved some lives πŸ’€. It's like, we're always talking about how complex the issue is 🀯, but sometimes it feels like we're just too scared to make a decision πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ.

What really gets me is when people start attacking experts and scientists πŸ‘©β€πŸ”¬ for trying to help us figure out what's going on 🀝. We need more of that constructive criticism rather than just tearing people down πŸ’”.

I mean, I get it, we can't all agree on everything πŸ”€, but shouldn't we at least try to have a respectful conversation about it? πŸ€— Instead, it feels like we're stuck in this perpetual debate and we're not getting anywhere 😩.
 
🚨 the whole thing with the lockdown sceptics is just gettin' outta hand 🀯 gotta remember that science isn't always black & white, but you can't just dismiss the data like that's not a big deal πŸ’Έ 23k lives lost to Covid? that's somethin' we can't just forget about πŸ™ & yeah, some people might be worried about individual freedoms, but at what cost? 🀝 our healthcare system is already strugglin', we can't afford to gamble with people's lives like that πŸ’Έ it's time to have a real conversation about the trade-offs, not just the stats πŸ“Š
 
I'm literally so tired of the right-wing media trying to spin their own agenda over science and human life πŸ’”. It's like they think people are stupid or something. Newsflash: we know what's toxic - their ideology 🀒. And lockdown sceptics like Toby Young and Daniel Hannan? More like lockdown deniers, imo πŸ™„. The fact that Boris Johnson is still getting a free pass for his actions during Covid is just wild 🀯. Can't they just admit that the UK's approach was flawed and move on?
 
Ugh πŸ™„ I'm so done with the anti-vaxxers and lockdown deniers πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ They're always whining about individual freedom but really they just don't want to accept that there's a risk involved πŸ’Έ Like, newsflash: life is risky! But at least we have laws and science to help keep us safe πŸš¨πŸ’Š It's so annoying when right-wing media starts spreading misinformation πŸ“° And Toby Young and Daniel Hannan are literally the worst 🀒 They should be held accountable for spreading false info that causes harm πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ The UK Covid Inquiry is a great step towards getting to the bottom of this mess πŸ’‘ We need to listen to experts and do our own research before making decisions about our health πŸ§¬πŸ’» Anything less would be irresponsible and selfish πŸ‘Ž
 
πŸ€” you know what's wild? I just had the craziest dream last night where I was flying over a giant beach with my favorite ice cream cone 🍦 in hand... and then I woke up and realized I left the stove on at home πŸ˜‚ anyway, back to covid - have you guys been thinking about how weird it is that we can be so passionate about politics and yet completely ignore our personal mental health? like, i mean, i'm guilty of it too πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ...
 
πŸ€” The whole situation with the Covid Inquiry is really frustrating πŸ€•. I mean, you've got people on one side saying lockdowns were a total disaster 😱, and others claiming they saved lives πŸ’―. It's like we're stuck in this endless cycle of "my data is wrong" πŸ“Š vs "my data is right" 🚫.

I think the thing that gets me most is how quickly people turn to conspiracy theories when things don't go their way πŸ€₯. I get it, we all want answers, but let's not forget where the evidence takes us 🎯. The numbers are in, and they're pretty clear: lockdowns had a significant impact on reducing hospital cases and deaths πŸ’”.

We need to have this conversation about trade-offs without getting too caught up in "team Covid" vs "team lockdown" πŸ‘₯. It's not that simple πŸ˜…. We can't just keep debating the same old points over and over without ever really engaging with each other's perspectives πŸ—£οΈ.
 
Man, I'm so done with the way some people are treating scientists and public health experts rn 🀯. Like, can't they just give them a break? The UK Covid inquiry is being attacked by right-wing media and politicians, and it's just getting out of hand πŸ™„. They're talking about lockdowns like they're the problem, but what they don't realize is that those measures saved countless lives 🌟.

It's not just about Boris Johnson or one person; it's about a whole ideology that rejects science and public protection πŸ’”. We need to have a nuanced conversation about these trade-offs, not just shout from the rooftops without considering the evidence πŸ—£οΈ. The future of our healthcare system is at stake, and we can't afford to be reckless 🚨.

I'm so tired of people trying to downplay the severity of Covid's impact or dismiss expert opinions as "incoherent" πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ. We need to stand up for facts, evidence-based decision-making, and public protection – that's what our democracy is all about πŸ’ͺ. We owe it to ourselves, our communities, and future generations to get this right πŸ‘Š.
 
I'm still getting frustrated with the way some people are treating the Covid Inquiry 🀯. It's like they're more concerned about being 'correct' than actually caring about public health πŸ˜’. I mean, come on, 23k deaths is a bloody tragedy πŸ™. We should be focusing on how we can prevent similar tragedies in the future, not attacking the people who are trying to make sense of it all πŸ€”.

And what's with the 'toxic' and 'chaotic' rhetoric? Is that really how you want to describe lockdowns? I think we need a more nuanced conversation about these issues πŸ—£οΈ. We need to consider the evidence, weigh the costs and benefits, and have a rational debate about our values as a society πŸ’‘.

It's also pretty sad that some people are more concerned with being right than actually doing what's best for people's lives πŸ˜”. The far-right media's approach is just a symptom of a deeper problem - a rejection of science, evidence-based decision-making, and public protection 🚫.

I'm not asking for anyone to agree with the lockdown sceptics or the government πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ. But I am saying that we need to engage in a respectful conversation about these issues, listen to expert opinions, and consider the long-term consequences of our choices πŸ’­. Anything less would be irresponsible and reckless 😬.
 
I'm so worried about the state of our country πŸ€•. I mean, the way they're attacking this Covid inquiry is just crazy! It's like they're more concerned with being right than with actually understanding what happened during that pandemic. And it's not just Boris Johnson, it's like a whole movement of people who are rejecting science and reason just because it doesn't fit their ideology.

I remember back in the 80s when they were promoting that gay plague theory, it was so gross 🀒. And now we're seeing something similar with this lockdown scepticism. It's like they think that individual freedoms trump public health and safety. No way, I don't think so 🚫.

The thing is, the evidence on Covid is complex and multifaceted. We can't just reduce it to a simple yes or no answer. We need to look at the data, consider the statistics, and weigh the costs of different policy options. Anything less would be irresponsible. And what really gets my goat is that they're trying to dismiss the lives lost during that pandemic as if it's all just some kind of abstract concept πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ.

We need to stand up for science, for reason, and for public protection. We can't let our democratic institutions get eroded by this far-right nonsense πŸ’”. It's time to have a nuanced debate about trade-offs and not be afraid to take calculated risks with our lives. Anything less would be reckless 🚨.
 
🀯 the problem with these lockdown sceptics is they're not just attacking Boris Johnson's policies but are basically saying we shouldn't have any government regulation at all... that's a scary place to be 🚫. like what if they take their ideology and apply it to other issues, like climate change or vaccine distribution? the UK's Covid Inquiry might seem like a small thing in the grand scheme, but it's actually a crucial test of how we balance individual freedoms with collective well-being πŸ’‘.
 
πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ honestly think these lockdown sceptics are just mad cuz their party lost πŸ† they're trying to shift the blame from Boris's dodgy policies to "science being toxic" πŸ˜’ what a load of codswallop! Covid was a global pandemic, we had to take drastic measures. And btw, 23k deaths is NOT something to be taken lightly πŸ’€ if you wanna get all fancy about it, let's discuss the pros and cons of lockdowns, but let's not pretend it was all one big experiment πŸ€”
 
"Knowledge is power." 🀯

The UK's Covid Inquiry has sparked a heated debate, with some questioning the effectiveness of lockdown measures. While opinions are divided, it's essential to examine the evidence and weigh the costs of different policy options. The human cost of this pandemic cannot be ignored, with 23,000 deaths attributed to Covid. As we move forward, let's prioritize public health and safety while considering individual freedoms. We need to engage in a nuanced debate about trade-offs and make informed decisions based on expert opinions and evidence.

The far-right's attacks on science and reason are concerning, but it's crucial not to let ideology dictate our approach. We must stand firm against delusions and defend our right to facts-based decision-making. The fate of our nation depends on it. πŸ’ͺ
 
I'm totally with the guy who thinks lockdowns were a total bust πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈπŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ I mean, have you seen the stats? People were dying left and right in hospitals that weren't even equipped to handle all the COVID patients πŸš‘πŸ’‰. It's crazy how our government just threw caution to the wind and locked down the entire country without thinking about the economic and social consequences πŸ˜±πŸ“ˆ.

But at the same time, I'm like, what if lockdowns did actually save lives? πŸ€” We should've seen more of a correlation between lockdown periods and lower death rates βš–οΈ. But no, the numbers just don't add up... or do they? πŸ”

I swear, my mind is totally torn on this one 😩. Can we just agree that we need to have a super nuanced conversation about public health vs individual freedoms? πŸ’¬πŸ€ It's not that simple. Maybe lockdowns were necessary, maybe they weren't πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ... I don't know! 🀯
 
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